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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun-it View Post
    I don't understand your thinkin of not using +2hands for jumps. Also can set proc on jumps?
    and Rancor for WS as well as Zahaks.
    Afaik, no it cannot. My justification is, jumps are 100% crit, doesn't Nhands augment with crit dmg +? In this case, it'd be a straight % damage increase (I think it's like 3% increase in damage). I believe OAT and DA are calculated in separate terms, but in either case, OAT decreases the effectiveness of DA, so would the straight % increase beat out the DA? I have Zahaks, but I have a hard time giving up 4 str and 14 attack considering that drg does not get an attack boosting JA. Furthermore, although I don't have one, it would break x-hit from the loss of 10 sTP on WS. I don't have a rancor collar and probably will never get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    And something that's not an HP set for mnk....
    Have the T3 pops just need to get off my ass to do them for +2 head. Banking on new sTP items in next update so skipping rose strap/5 hit. Starting to work on baby blobdingnads, have 20 sashes just need 4 mana necks. Don't think there's much else to do. Lancer's vs. Love vs. Agasaya?

    Err... was in safe, but I have timarli hands already. Didn't notice it when taking the SS

    Again, needs to get off my ass and farm a yovra for flame. I have the sharks and xzomit lol. Flame Pearl for ear, I assume. Meh. Shinryu won't put out. Need to get sky access (lol) for Nfeet +1 augmented. Nhands +1 augmented best as well?

    Same questions above regarding nhands. I assume that the OAT from lance will also cause +2 hands to become lackluster, not to mention the straight 3% damage boost from 100% crit.
    Just to confirm, are you posting this to get suggestions or just showing your set? Can't be sure anymore.

    If it is the former, unless I'm counting wrong you are sitting at 24% haste. You could use Zelus and calmecac trousers for 26% haste and DA/TA for the loss of 14 att.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsyke View Post
    Just to confirm, are you posting this to get suggestions or just showing your set? Can't be sure anymore.

    If it is the former, unless I'm counting wrong you are sitting at 24% haste. You could use Zelus and calmecac trousers for 26% haste and DA/TA for the loss of 14 att.
    Lol. Yeah, I know I'm sitting at 24% haste, once I +2 my head, it goes to 25% haste and then the loss of 39 atk outweighs the .xx% haste, at least in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Lol. Yeah, I know I'm sitting at 24% haste, once I +2 my head, it goes to 25% haste and then the loss of 39 atk outweighs the .xx% haste, at least in my opinion.
    It's more of 39 att vs 2% DA 2% TA and .xx% haste and probably 39 att will still win considering you getting this crap oat

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    Sorry I can't do mythic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Sorry I can't do mythic
    Empyrean is still better. Just don't ask me to prove it I did it few times on this forum already. They are at worst equal but empyrean still have an access for self double light+ODD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Empyrean is still better. Just don't ask me to prove it I did it few times on this forum already. They are at worst equal but empyrean still have an access for self double light+ODD.
    I'd level mnk and make a verethragna. I somehow doubt that empyrean is still better, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Empyrean is still better. Just don't ask me to prove it I did it few times on this forum already. They are at worst equal but empyrean still have an access for self double light+ODD.
    There's pretty much no way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    There's pretty much no way.
    Well I think you tho I meant mythic vs Empyrean. I meant empyrean vs OAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Well I think you tho I meant mythic vs Empyrean. I meant empyrean vs OAT.
    Oh, yeah I'd believe that. Yeah, I thought you meant Mythic.

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    I thought OAT was shown to be better due to drakesbane being a much better ws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    I thought OAT was shown to be better due to drakesbane being a much better ws?
    wut? So you can't use Drakesbane with Rhongomiant? That's foolish. I use Evisceration instead of Rudra's Storm when SA/TA isn't up and/or aftermath is down. You aren't limited to the WS on the weapon you know...

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    Yes I know that but when Atoreis is talking about self light and ODD means hes not using Drakes, Even then, I thought it was mathed out better for DA polearm since it has good base damage and will be using drakes more often.

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    Yea when did that change, no more than a month ago i asked this question and everyone was in favor of OAT.

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    Atoreis put something together in one of the RQT threads that had emp polearm ahead by some margin. I don't remember if it was inside or outside of abyssea, or any other specifics though.

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    I honestly don't care about which is better, I'm not making my linkshell make me a rhongo. That said, what other improvements can I make? Are augmented Nhands better than heafoc/AF3+2? Should I swap blitz for hoard and atheling for lancer's to get 25% haste and 5 hit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    Yes I know that but when Atoreis is talking about self light and ODD means hes not using Drakes, Even then, I thought it was mathed out better for DA polearm since it has good base damage and will be using drakes more often.
    Yeah Drakes is better but inside OAT suffers from TA/DA and outside you have acces for very destructive combo camlann -> drakes -> camlann for light -> double light and that will definitely beat 3x drakes and will also gives you ODD. If you are fighting several weak mobs then this combo might not be useful tho. Same for zergs but zerg will a) be to short to get advantage from OAT more swings (WS WS jump jump WS 2hr jump jump WS mostly) and higher damage empy will win b) it will be long enough to ODD from 200% TP camlann (Sekkanoki drakes -> camlann) at start overcome the gain from OAT swings.
    There are certain situation where OAT might win ( fast killing weak mibs but on the other hand it will lose some OAT swings from melee finishing blows ) but for most serious stuff empy is better.

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    TP Set:


    Vorpal Blade set:


    And though improvements to BLU Spell gear are usually pretty damn obvious, I'm gonna post my CW set because it's sexy (though, admittedly, still incomplete):

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    My BLU is nowhere as good as yours and apart from obvious improvements like Novio earring and another thundersoul for CW it is pretty good.
    In terms of TP, wouldn't dusk +1 be better in acc capped Abyssea? (Not necessarily worth the gil for everyone)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsyke View Post
    My BLU is nowhere as good as yours and apart from obvious improvements like Novio earring and another thundersoul for CW it is pretty good.
    In terms of TP, wouldn't dusk +1 be better in acc capped Abyssea? (Not necessarily worth the gil for everyone)
    Yeah, technically, I should use Dusk Feet+1 and Dusk Hands (HQ or NQ) and Smart Grenade for some extra Attack whenever I'm capped on ACC, but I don't think my inv can handle it for just 15 more ATK (As I would want to keep the other stuff for when I'm NOT capped on ACC).

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