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  1. #141
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    http://vg-resource.com/?p=974


    Was Catherine To Be Released on PC?
    Catherine was recently released in the US, and at this time I took it upon myself to examine the contents of the disc. I imported the game since I was eager to have a go, and I found it to be remarkably fun, so I thought that it might be cool to see if there was anything on the disc that may have been left behind…

    While there was in fact several unused images for the cellphone, as well as a few other random bits and pieces, I also found a user interface sheet for PS3 controls (and this is from the Xbox 360 disc) as well as some other interesting icons…



    On this sheet you can clearly see keyboard keys without any key on them, as a template for the controls, as well as several different mouse icons. Now, mistake me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe the 360 or PS3 versions of this game support such control mechanics…

    Based on this picture being found in the “Test” folder, I can easily assume it never even got out of the testing stages in terms of development, but what we can tell is that Atlus wasn’t just thinking of developing this game for a console. Not only that, but it also tells me there are several parts of this story that have been slightly changed over time – This can be examined through the use of cell-phone images that never made it into the final game.



    Additionally, I’m not sure what to really take from this picture taken from the “Title” folder, which generally will hold any screenshots, or singular image items such as Game Over screens, or the like. It’s a picture of what would appear to be two real life people playing out the roles of Catherine and Vincent – however, they look nothing like the two character shown in-game. Your thoughts? I know that multiplayer within the final game allows you to play as a coloured sheep – but then explain the following image as well…

    Check out the gallery for some of those cellphone images I took from the disc, as well as the above images in full resolution – I’ll be putting more items up on The Spriters Resource when I’ve finished examining that game. I’m hoping to also find some unused characters in here too, through the 3D models, but no promises.

    Obviously some items are slightly NSFW, so do be warned… AlsoI guess maybe possible Spoilers?


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    I'm pretty sure most of those pictures are actually in the game. I know as I did my first play-through Catherine sent me a few of those naughty photos and on one day the phone company sent me the picture of Vincent and Katherine with the cake.

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    So, how does the multiplayer work? Do they help out during the puzzles or something?

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    So for all the endings its about your meter and how you respond to the final 4 questions on the last stage (8th day)?

    i.e: More precisely, the questions affect which girl you get (or don't). The meter will affect whether you get true, normal or bad?

    Just want to make sure since it seems like you only need to replay the game fully 3 times as long as you save before you start day 8 puzzles?

    Overall I think the game is amazing, one of the best games I have played. Puzzles are crazy hard at times, and it feels so great when you figure them out. Story is amazing and just the game is done very very well.

    edit: I haven't finished my first playthrough yet because I didn't get a chance to play yesterday, but does Katherine send you pictures? So far it's only been catherine (and do they change depending on how you respond to stuff?)

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    AFAIK there's only one Katherine pic available in game but I could be wrong, I haven't done every ending yet.

    As for the ending triggers:

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    The meter determines which girl you get (all red, all blue, in between), and your answers on the final day affect if you get normal, true or bad endings. The answers you give on the final day don't move your meter at all. Your 'last save' locks in which girl you get so you can change your answers to see all 8 possible outcomes so ideally you only need 3 of them to see everything.

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    is the 8th day the last (it seems like the last since i only have one more night to go in the nightmares by the tower map)? And these last final questions you are asked. Is it as you climb the tower or is it after you finish the tower? I'm trying to be all good on my first playthrough so want to make sure I don't botch the meter after the point of no return.

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    The 'bad/true/normal' ending trigger questions happen after the 8th night so your branched saves will come after night 8 is over. Make sure you've properly built up your blue/red meters well in advance of night 8 though for those story paths.

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    Question for anyone who is playing it on hard difficulty. I just beat it on normal and was wondering how hard mode is. Do you have less retries/undos or are the puzzles just more difficult?

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    The puzzles themselves are more difficult. This becomes evident very very quickly.

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    damn, I can't even imagine some of those puzzles being more retarded then they already are. I got to the last puzzle in the cathedral last night (normal), the 10 story puzzle. Spent like 20 minutes messing around before going to sleep.. wtf at that puzzle. maybe it was just because I was tired

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    The puzzles themselves are more difficult. This becomes evident very very quickly.
    This, a thousand times over. They aren't impossible, but if you struggled on normal some of the puzzles on hard will have you ripping your hair out I'd wager.

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    ok... as spoiler free a answer as possible please:

    So I'm basically at the last nightmare of my full blue meter. And I mean everything since after finishing the nightmare boss where your racing against Shadow Vincent has been kinda crazy. I can only imagine everything after that point is totally different if my meter was full red. Is this correct? Or is it basically the same and the only difference is the very end?

    I'll be dissapointed if its basically all the same aside the end since all this stuff seems like it would be radically different depending on which girl you plan to go for

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    Yeah, its pretty much all the same disappointingly, i still enjoyed the story but i was hoping for some differentiation depending on the meter throughout the game. I think the only thing that changes with different positions on the meter is Vincent's thoughts when the meter shows up when hes stressed, aside from that it was nearly identical. Also, i'd suggest looking at a spoiler free ending guide, the ending also depends on how you answer questions during the last night and your position on the meter and you may want to see the "true" ending rather than the "good" or "bad" ones.

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    I am saddened They could of changed so much around if they wanted to.. its begging for it.. wait... so even

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    where catherine dies and you go up the nightmare tower w/Katherine is the same regardless of being full red or blue meter? such a dissapointment

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    Yes, that was the one part i was hoping would be different, but unfortunately it was the same.

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    ok, last question... based on that spoiler free ending guide http://catherinethegame.wikia.com/wiki/Endings

    for "Heavy law" vs "max law", can I not get the "good" endings if I'm maxed law since you answer some the same for good and true. That's gonna suck if so.. I shoulda left a save earlier. Hopefully the last night in the bar will give me a chance to change the meter a little (thats where I'm at when I stopped for the night)

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    Im not sure if theres a difference between maxed and just heavy, but you should be able to get the true ending, and you wont be able to change the meter that last night in the bar. I would definitely create a save that night in the bar so that if you wish you could view the other two endings and get trophies. Ive only done the true catherine and katherine endings so far and both were equally good, still have true freedom left.

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    Actually, looking at that wiki it is kind of worrying to me, that does suck if you cant see the true ending because of not being at max.

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    oh, there are multiple paths for for the good endings, its just the true endings that require full meter in either direction or close to the middle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    oh, there are multiple paths for for the good endings, its just the true endings that require full meter in either direction or close to the middle
    Right, the only things max law, max chaos and true neutral are needed for is the true ends for each category. At worst you're looking at 3 playthroughs (pretty easy if you gold every level so you can skip it on replays), and you're able to pick up all but the true freedom end from max law and max chaos combined.

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