Gene Eugenics

[Eugene]

A possibly moar politically correct term for this discussion is gene therapy. It focuses on correcting disorders and problems rather than genetically engineering the "superior" human. Neither term completely encompasses the other though.

@Khamsin I'm not disputing that the physiological process is any different. Likely the same chemical reactions occur to instill the feeling of lust, just with opposing stimuli. However that's the simplest part of the matter. There cannot be simply a "gay gene" because that simply shows a binary response, gay or not. This is far too simple, in the whole spectrum of sexuality, there is more than just gay and straight.

The next simplest interaction of genes would be two genes. Gene attraction to women and Gene attraction to men. A man with Gene attraction to women on would be considered heterosexual. A man with Gene attraction to men on would be considered homosexual. A man with both activated would be bisexual, and a man with neither activated would have no attraction. But even this is far too simple. There are many more sexual identities including tastes within sexual categories (physical attributes {fat, thin, muscular, hair color, even style}, personality types), pedophilia, zoophilia, and many more socially unacceptable sexual attractions.

This quickly becomes apparent that sexuality is not a one gene show. Is it entirely genetic? Again there is no conclusive evidence that it is. I personally think there are far too many factors involved to boil it down to simply genetic, though I believe genetics could play a role. But evidence such as fluidity of sexuality, people who were sexually abused having an increased likelihood of becoming abusers themselves regardless whether the original abuser was related to the abused or not, and the wide spectrum of sexual phenotypes and tastes, among many other things probably suggest that sexuality is not something entirely within the genetic code.

[Restrat]

you also have to remember that even these non-genetic factors work by altering gene expression. Even if something were caused by an environmental factor, an advanced knowledge of the genetics of the attribute would allow us to use gene therapy to change it anyway.

[Max™]

A possibly moar politically correct term for this discussion is gene therapy. It focuses on correcting disorders and problems rather than genetically engineering the "superior" human. Neither term completely encompasses the other though.

Eugene-ics?

[Narol]

I don't think asperger's should be, as it's more of a different way of thinking than a severe disability.

Trust me, it completely and totally sucks to actually have. If I was going to have a kid and I was told, "Well, your child's going to have Asperger's, but we have something to prevent that," I'd tell them to splice whatever genes it took and not look back.

[Max™]

Trust me, it completely and totally sucks to actually have. If I was going to have a kid and I was told, "Well, your child's going to have Asperger's, but we have something to prevent that," I'd tell them to splice whatever genes it took and not look back.

Word, the people who talk about it like "it's the next step in human evolution" or some bullshit don't take into consideration that we're a highly social species, and this is a severe social impairment.

Imagine being a bat, and finding out that other bats can not only echolocate, they can communicate with it.

[Priran]

shut up max

[Kuya]

lol

[Max™]

shut up max

Why you gotta hate, Pirian?

[Kuya]

Nice avatar btw

[Darus Grey]

Since the gayz statistically make more money(cause we all know corporate america is about whose dick you suck), I'll be ADDING the gay gene to my kids, rest of you are doing it wrong.

[Max™]

*been slathering with anticipation for 297~300 of Vagabond to get translated*

Also, I can't help but picture some hairy, doughy, poof-guy when people mention "the gay gene"... how odd.

[Stumblingdrunk]

as iq rises so does unhappiness, make pretty babies, its all that matters

[Max™]

as iq rises so does unhappiness, make housecats, its all that matters

My cat is stupid as a rock, and happier than any of us have ever been in our entire lives.

[Stumblingdrunk]

despite the edit, you prove my point, not only is it happy, but everyone else loves it cause its cute

[Psion]

I got ASD myself, so I know a good deal of what asperger's is like. <_< I would've qualified for it had I been caught when I was little, but I sort of learned the hard way how to not stare at people too long or too short, and to diversify my focus of interest somewhat so that I wasn't a cat obsessed kid my whole life. So I wound up being diagnosed with PDD-NOS instead. :O

I can certainly understand where you're coming from with social impairment, and I would love to be able to handle conversations better and understand those social cues I'm always missing, but at the same time, I rather enjoy being able to focus on what I love so easily, as well as my ability to remember things without much effort. I also love the fact that I'm not just visually focused, but also can use my hearing, sense of smell, sense of taste, and sense of touch to notice things that most people pass by without ever realizing. All in all, I'm not really sure whether I would give it up or not. Even though I'm still a social idiot, I've slowly gotten better over the years, and now I can converse with people I like for the most part without totally getting in a rut.

Also, most gay guys are probably manlier than half the men in new york. <_< Not that that's saying much, but for every 100 men you see that are clearly gay, 80 are metrosexual straight men, another 15 are straight guys pretending to be gay for some pussy, and the last 5 are flamers, of which probably half only act that way to advertise their single status for a BF then will act normal after. Most gay men totally slip under the radar that uses flamer activity, though certain people, especially females, seem to have a hidden gaydar that uses some form of ESP to detect gay men despite that. =D

P.S. any ladies willing to donate that gaydar? ;; I swear it never seems to come preinstalled in gay men themselves. ';.;'

[Priran]

I got ASD myself, so I know a good deal of what asperger's is like.

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[Rhyis.]

I'll rock my flaws till the day I die. GTFO with genetic manipulation.

[Grey Jorildyn]

Went with IQ. I am quite fine with eugenics, as long as it improves the average intelligence. There are far too many stupid people walking around, allowed to breed.

[Stumblingdrunk]

Went with IQ. I am quite fine with eugenics, as long as it improves the average intelligence. There are far too many stupid people walking around, allowed to breed.

again, increased iq increases the likelihood of dissatisfaction, all of the "smart" people that claim to respect scientific evidence seem to ignore evidence when it contradicts how they view themselves

[guartz]

Whatever. Shit better have a pretty GUI for customization. Chin depth and everything.