PS3 PIRATING DISCUSSION

**Ragnell** · 2011-01-11 19:53

Isn't the a PSP with CFW able to play online as well? I know it can access the PSN store, but not sure about online

**Insanecyclone** · 2011-01-11 19:55

Ad hoc yeah

**Kaisha** · 2011-01-11 19:56

Ad-hoc and games that don't go online via PSN iirc.

**Ragnell** · 2011-01-11 19:57

ah, welp Im glad I have another PS3

**Ragnell** · 2011-01-11 19:58

:3

**Kaisha** · 2011-01-11 20:03

Raggy, wanna buy me a PS3 Slim?

**Kiarax** · 2011-01-11 20:37

You can play online with CFW on PSP too, there's plugins to get around the blocks PSN uses (or rather it trying to get you to update your firmware).

**sruon** · 2011-01-11 21:04

Hahaha, he wanted a job, he gets a lawsuit.

http://geohot.com/Proposed%20Order.pdf

http://geohot.com/Motion%20For%20TRO.pdf

Next time go anon.

**Odesseiron** · 2011-01-11 21:39

Wow, that sucks for them. I guess what they did was illegal, but they didn't pirate anything. I guess reverse engineering counts though. It's far too late though. This will only push pirates over the next step to work that much harder to crack PS3 piracy. For every 1 website a company gets shut down, 100 more pop up, and this is no different. I wonder how the courts will handle this. I know a lot of judges throw these kinds of things out. Sony will probably hire the best lawyers money can buy, but that doesn't mean f0 people won't find some loophole to get them off the hook. I will definitely be keeping up with this, as it is all very interesting.

Also; with all the keys released, it is far too late for Sony to really do anything as far as damage control goes. I'd say they're trying for triage at this point, but it's really all for naught. I'm sure there are people working around the clock on how to continue to break into this shit.

**Ragnell** · 2011-01-11 22:11

Yea its pretty impossible now for sony to recoup for the damage done, there are thousands of people with the codes saved and everything they when public with

**Julian** · 2011-01-11 22:14

Don't give a shit about Geohot, he can go dig his own grave. But fail0verflow, damn, real shame. :/

**Ragnell** · 2011-01-11 22:38

wasn't he apart of fail0verflow?

**Akiyama** · 2011-01-12 00:16

I think he was more of a 'by himself' sort of thing so he'd get a lot of the credit as well. any time you listen to him doing anything, he sounds full of himself.

if Sony somehow gets a jury involved in this shit though.. could look at jail time.

**sruon** · 2011-01-12 00:18

Nope he wasn't part of f0, and f0 aren't american (not that I claim knowing how the US laws work) so they should be fine. (for now)

Priceless :

http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/~kakar...ohot_soap.jpeg

**Pikarya** · 2011-01-12 00:30

http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads...meh.ro5961.jpg

For f0.

As for Geo. Fuck that ego douchebag. Just as bad as Robert Pelloni, if not worse.

Good riddance.

**Aevis** · 2011-01-12 03:11

i like how everyone is jumping the "badmouth geo" bandwagon. "he gave us the root key which also lead to the psp key findings and provided us with working signing tools" - "but he's an asshole" - "oh right, i hope he rots in jail".

as for the case, sony just tries to /safeface. so many false accusations in that tro...

**Charismatic** · 2011-01-12 03:29

**jmc** · 2011-01-12 04:02

Read over alot of the legal paperwork, and at least sony admits their console is now fucked completely.

From the TPO

The metldr key does break the console’s security even more (especially with respect to
newer, future firmwares – and thus also piracy of newer games)

*edit*

This is one thing thats really gonna fuck geohotz over..... guess it happens when you rub it in.

6. 18 U.S.C. § 1030(a)(7)(B) – Intent to Extort

Finally, SCEA will likely prevail on its claim under §1030(a)(7)(B), which prohibits
“intent to extort from any person any money or other thing of value” by threatening “to obtain
information from a protected computer without authorization or in excess of authorization or
to impair the confidentiality of information obtained from a protected computer without
authorization or by exceeding authorized access.” Hotz violated this provision when, in the
same post in which the published SCEA’s Keys, he attempted to obtain from SCEA “a thing
of value” in the form of employment: “if you want your next console to be secure, get in touch
with me.” Bricker Decl. at ¶22, Exh. U.

To prevent further harm to SCEA, the Court should immediately enjoin Defendants’
unauthorized access of the PS3 Systems.

**Jefe** · 2011-01-12 05:13

I'd be like "Your honour, distinguished members of the jury, first I'd like to say that I'm a hardworking tax-paying American citizen, and I support the troops. Second, with regards to the plaintiff's claims, all I meant was to protect their interests. Last, that heavyset individual with questionable hair you see in the videos is not me. Thank you, God bless America."

**Aevis** · 2011-01-12 07:00

Originally Posted by jmcgarrell

This is one thing thats really gonna fuck geohotz over..... guess it happens when you rub it in.

really depends on his lawyer, because what sony writes there is stretching terms quite a bit. to quote the discussion about that part from another board:

Guys,

Take a close look at this post. Part of their claim, as asked in a previous post, is that Geo released the root key as a form of extortion as he was trying to get a job. This seems like one hell of a stretch to me. Not a lawyer, but am a paralegal.
I'd say it's even more of a stretch than you think. The definition of "protected computer" in that statute is:

(2) the term “protected computer” means a computer—
(A) exclusively for the use of a financial institution or the United States Government, or, in the case of a computer not exclusively for such use, used by or for a financial institution or the United States Government and the conduct constituting the offense affects that use by or for the financial institution or the Government; or
(B) which is used in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce or communication, including a computer located outside the United States that is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce or communication of the United States.
Sony's argument for applying this definition is exactly this:

the PS3 System consists of a “protected computer” because it is used in
interstate commerce (e.g., the Internet.)

Seriously. That's it. Sony is seriously arguing that geohot hacked into a computer "used in interstate commerce" because he hacked "the PS3 System". Sony's lawyers apparently don't understand the difference between a computer and a platform.

+ sony seriously thinking he was trying to extort a job from them by his "if you want your next console to be secure, get in touch with me." line

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