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    Probably, yeah. You're best off finishing your Acc/Dex dagger asap (Golems is only 2 stages from the end, eh?) and then using it as a main hand while you kill for your OA2-3. Also, get 85 on DNC first. The OA2-3 trials suck, might as well go easy on yourself.

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    Rapidos Sax (sp?) is also a pretty sweet dagger option.

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    That's a solid option for Thief offhand, but DNC can't wear it.

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    Adler Ring or Blood Ring for DNC and MNK?

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    Neither?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    Neither?
    Then what do you suggest besides a toreador's ring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diddy Kong View Post
    Then what do you suggest besides a toreador's ring?
    Sniper's +1?

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    Just between those two options, for mnk, definitely Blood. For dnc I'd use Blood unless you were absolutely desperate for every scrap of accuracy you could get ahold of. Such situations should be extremely rare.

    Edit: Why would you get a Sniper +1 when you could get a Toreador for half the cost? Not like mnk and dnc need the ranged accuracy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    Just between those two options, for mnk, definitely Blood. For dnc I'd use Blood unless you were absolutely desperate for every scrap of accuracy you could get ahold of. Such situations should be extremely rare.
    Okay, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    Just between those two options, for mnk, definitely Blood. For dnc I'd use Blood unless you were absolutely desperate for every scrap of accuracy you could get ahold of. Such situations should be extremely rare.

    Edit: Why would you get a Sniper +1 when you could get a Toreador for half the cost? Not like mnk and dnc need the ranged accuracy...
    Even if you needed the ranged acc, there are better rings for ranged acc. No viable reason to own a sniper+1. People just like their white boxes

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    Relic body (avatar crits +3%) or Augur's Jaseran (summoning skill +10) for crit-hitting blood pacts, specifically Predator Claws?

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    STR/ATK Taipan fangs vs OaT FW mnk? Unless af3 boots make footwork a lot stronger of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    STR/ATK Taipan fangs vs OaT FW mnk? Unless af3 boots make footwork a lot stronger of course.
    Prior to today's adjustments, Taipan fangs took a sizeable lead over OAT(2-3, too) with Footwork. Not sure how much of the gap will be closed by removing Martial Arts traits when using Footwork, but bet that Kinematics/Moentenen(sp?) will math it out before too long.

    Edit: To add, I am workin' on both, albeit very slowly. Figure it can't hurt to be flexible.

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    how does hecate's cape hold up to prism for damage?

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    Depends on job/spell, but usually 3 MAB > 4 INT. But I'd skip Hecate's and go straight for Pedant, 2 levels higher : strictly better damage, equal or better Macc.

    Quote Originally Posted by seiji View Post
    how stack the WS dmg+10% with overwhelm? if they add you only get 8% more dmg
    No idea.
    But 8 BD is still lower than +8.4% WS damage for YGK. It's around 4%~5% (at that level), depending on gear.

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    What's better?

    http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...g_1WSDMG10.jpg

    OR

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ing_1STP10.jpg


    (I wouldn't be surprised either if the 10% only applied to the first hit of a multi...)

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    Luckily, this is quite an easy comparison.

    Both Store TP and Weaponskill Damage +x% only affect the WS phase of your damage. Furthermore, we can suggest that WS frequency is equal to WS damage in terms of improving damage (imagine a WS doing 50 damage and you WS 10 times. Double the WS damage and you get 100 x 10 = 1000, or alternatively double the frequency and you get 50 x 20 = 1000). In reality things like JA delay etc reduce WS frequency somewhat but generally speaking this is a decent way of looking at it.

    With this in mind, 7hit => 6hit is a 20% increase in WS frequency and 6hit => 5hit is a 25% increase in WS frequency.

    Conclusion: If the Store TP pushes you into a new xhit, it is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    Prior to today's adjustments, Taipan fangs took a sizeable lead over OAT(2-3, too) with Footwork. Not sure how much of the gap will be closed by removing Martial Arts traits when using Footwork, but bet that Kinematics/Moentenen(sp?) will math it out before too long.

    Edit: To add, I am workin' on both, albeit very slowly. Figure it can't hurt to be flexible.
    Aside from AF3 possibility of making footwork a giant increase, tapian fang+1 fire and defense down path both beat OaT footwork, including after today's maintenance.

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    Didn't really look at the def down path til now, would atk fangs generally come out ahead of those?

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    Occ. Atks 2x beat Tapian before update when you consider any good DD is sitting on capped fstr from stout arm and VV.. haven't looked at lv85 stats yet though, but I'd at least consider it.

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