What's Better?

[Airenn]

Perfect, thank you very much Massimo.

[wop]

Would Carvanos mantle’s increased crit outdo Belenos on WAR assuming cookie cutter gears, 8/8GA V.bhuj, turban haub+1, haste hands waist legs feet etc…(in abyssea-assuming WITH RR and VV atma’s; abyssea XP mobs not NM)

[Thorny]

Would Carvanos mantle’s increased crit outdo Belenos on WAR assuming cookie cutter gears, 8/8GA V.bhuj, turban haub+1, haste hands waist legs feet etc…(in abyssea-assuming WITH RR and VV atma’s; abyssea XP mobs not NM)

It should, 3% damage on ~75% of swings is 2.25% damage. For an attack mantle to match that, you'd need to be making use of the attack on crits and it just plain isn't happening unless you're gimp(no red curry buns, don't keep up with zerk, etc).

[wop]

^ Thanks.

What about swapping pole to brave grip?

[Thorny]

Should also win, provided you use raging rush exclusively.

10% Native DA
5% Brutal
5% merits
10% Eve
=30%

1.32/1.3 = .015
1.32^2/1.3^2 = 1.7424 / 1.69 = 1.031

1.5% increase on TP damage, 3.1% increase on WS damage from pole

3.5% * .75 = 2.625% tp/ws damage

main problem would be if it's additive to crit damage+:Major from atma instead of multiplicative and it's a large bonus, you'd get decreasing returns

[Tribe]

Fettle because you never really need accuracy anymore.

So then Grim Cuirass > E. Body?

[Fwahm]

I don't have a good selection of Atma yet, and was wondering which two of these would work best for a Dark Knight

Atma of the Hero
Atma of the Sellsword
Atma of the Winged Enigma

Assume ~130 STR and ~650 attack without atma.

[Xerlic]

For BLM nukes: 17 INT and 5 MAB vs. 9 INT and 9 MAB inside Abyssea assuming both Furtherance Abyssites and Atma of Heavens for -jas and Tier 5s. I don't have Minikin yet... Is it safe to assume that dINT*M gives half value at this point?

The equipment in question is Goetia Head +1/Goetia Legs +2/Yigit Feet vs. Morrigan Head/Legs/Feet with the set bonus. Basically, I'm wondering at what point does full Morrigan lose. I'm assuming it's still not enough to break the set and would have to +2 the head and/or get +2 feet and the +7 MAB hands.

[Massimo]

So then Grim Cuirass > E. Body?

When you're capped on accuracy and don't need an STP body, yes.

[Akyrey90]

For BLM nukes: 17 INT and 5 MAB vs. 9 INT and 9 MAB inside Abyssea assuming both Furtherance Abyssites and Atma of Heavens for -jas and Tier 5s. I don't have Minikin yet... Is it safe to assume that dINT*M gives half value at this point?

The equipment in question is Goetia Head +1/Goetia Legs +2/Yigit Feet vs. Morrigan Head/Legs/Feet with the set bonus. Basically, I'm wondering at what point does full Morrigan lose. I'm assuming it's still not enough to break the set and would have to +2 the head and/or get +2 feet and the +7 MAB hands.

9 int and 9 mab should be more dmg!i'd go with that set,since u'r getting a shit load of int from abys buffs anyway

[Khajit]

Quirmizango tathlum vs bombcore or bomlet on nin?
Inside and outside abyssea using eve and razed ruin atma.

Also. Kamome vs sekka+1 dex weap. offhand is isatu.

Some random data from the last time i used my nin in an abyssea alliance
19% crit rate vs mobs pre razed ruin.
Average jin is 1058.67
High was 2258.
No brd/cor/dnc in the pt i was in.

[Byxfluzba]

Full perle or Turban/ares/homam/homam/lancers schynbalds+1 for DRG/SAM and DRG/NIN?

Relative stats going from perle to mixed sets.
-45def
+7str
-3acc
-10str
-14dex
+9vit
+1 haste
-1 enmity
-2% crit rate.
+sizable chunk of HP/mp
+ refresh
+ fastcast

[Raen Ryong]

Lancer's setup provided you don't need the acc (lol).

[Francisco]

Full Usukane vs Tantra+1 Head/Legs + Usu Body/Feet/Hands for TP?

Comes out to: "Subtle Blow" +8, "Kick Attacks"+5, Increases "Perfect Counter" attack

vs...

STR+8 DEX+5 AGI+3 Attack+3 Evasion +7

[Motenten]

With Pizza +1, Tantra +1 combo is about 2% ahead, as you'll likely be well over the accuracy cap. Usu set has a higher acc buffer, though, so if you switched to Bison Steak and adjusted gear slightly then full Usu is about 2% ahead. Subject to fluctuation with various buffs/debuffs/etc.

Overall, if you need to keep Usu hands on for the acc while using Tantra +1, full Usu will do better. If you can afford to switch to OKote (purely in terms of accuracy), the Tantra +1 pieces will do better.

[TaruMortis]

What would be better to use for BRD debuffs? The +3 skill Quire grip or the elemental grips? I want to say the Quire grip, but, I wanted to be positive.

[wop]

If you think grips can make a difference in landing and not landing debuffs at lv85, then we're not playing the same game.

I use just staff strap for all my mage jobs.

Saves space.

[TaruMortis]

If you think grips can make a difference in landing and not landing debuffs at lv85, then we're not playing the same game.

I use just staff strap for all my mage jobs.

Saves space.

It's simply for the sake of argument .

[FailureMidgard]

If you think grips can make a difference in landing and not landing debuffs at lv85, then we're not playing the same game.

I use just staff strap for all my mage jobs.

Saves space.

While I agree with you...it's a pretty poor attitude, and why carry a grip at all? Do you think -2enm and 20mp has ever once made a difference on a fight? Point is any small amount will probably never amount to anything, but when you start dropping everything that on it's own doesn't make a difference, you will end up with a difference. This goes for DD jobs/etc too...you're not going to notice a difference if a melee just skips his grip slot all together, but it's still gimp/inferior/etc, and once in a blue moon it alone may be the difference.

[wop]

True, brb selling my staff strap now since it's a waste of space, not game breaking enough to justify one inventory.

If i need that 20 mp and -2 enmity to survive, i might as well quit game.