What's Better?

[Buffy]

True, brb selling my staff strap now since it's a waste of space, not game breaking enough to justify one inventory.

If i need that 20 mp and -2 enmity to survive, i might as well quit game.

I'm not certain. Is this what sarcasm looks like?

[Shinryuu]

Wopa why do you use a hauby+1 and not askar body?

[Firedemon]

Jesus Christ that's the worst excuse to justify gear ever.

Why even wear body armor? Shit's just gonna die in 10 more seconds if you had armor on anyway. Why shoot silver bullets when you can just shoot iron for a few less damage...one more shot will make up the less damage so who cares eh?

[Villian]

What's better, stp Gaxe or OAT Gaxe? Working on war easy to get Gaxe atm.

[Byrthnoth]

What's better, stp Gaxe or OAT Gaxe? Working on war easy to get Gaxe atm.

Unless you can 5-hit it, the WS damage GA will be better than either.

[wop]

Jesus Christ that's the worst excuse to justify gear ever.

Why even wear body armor? Shit's just gonna die in 10 more seconds if you had armor on anyway. Why shoot silver bullets when you can just shoot iron for a few less damage...one more shot will make up the less damage so who cares eh?

You are retarded. Reread what I said.
Can 20mp and -2mp affect how fast I kill a mob? No.

The examples you gave; going naked/iron bullers; obviously will affect my gameplay/kill speed etc.. Hence having them justifies a spot. Just like -DT gearset. No reason not to carry them.

You should just stick back to crafting and salvage as per your sig.

[Villian]

Unless you can 5-hit it, the WS damage GA will be better than either.

Having hard time trying to find enough gears for 6 hits +WS damage GA as /nin thou. Any gears recommendation?

[Byrthnoth]

Err..? I don't think it's particularly hard. You just use Rajas+Brutal+Rose strap (or Korazin + Pole if you feel like it and can take the hit to your Acc):

488 delay = 13.2 TP/hit
13.2*1.25 = 16.5 TP/hit
16.5*6 = 99

If you're Acc capped, you will land one extra hit of RR/KJ >99% of the time (or if you have Eve's Atma), so that's a 6-hit.

Korazin + Pole:
13.2*1.26 = 16.6TP/hit
13.2*1.21 = 15.9TP/main WS hit
15.9+16.6*5 = 98.9
Additional hit is 1.2 TP, so that's a 6-hit >99% of the time as well.

True 6-hits are for suckas and chumps (or for fighting mobs with TP reset).

[Villian]

With 10 stp?

[Byrthnoth]

Oooh, as /NIN. Missed that. That'll be harder You will still want 25-27 STP. Assuming you don't have access to Aurum body, that puts you at:

WS Damage/Rose/___/W.Tath
Whatever/Whatever/Atila's/Brutal
Korazin/Whatever/Rajas/Whatever
Belenos/Whatever/Whatever/Whatever
+ Carbonara

26 STP, but you'd actually want more than that because you'll want to take most of that gear off for weaponskill. Could consider TPing in Hoard. It doesn't really seem worth it over just 7-hitting though.

[Villian]

Was considering stp because all I need for 6 hits is rose strap, rajas, and either korazin or carbonara. Was thinking about OAT GA because I was doing 1.3-3.2k RR to abyssbugards in abyssea with martial bhuj (no GA so I had to AH one) with stout arm and RR atma.

[Darkmagi]

Oooh, as /NIN. Missed that. That'll be harder You will still want 25-27 STP. Assuming you don't have access to Aurum body, that puts you at:

WS Damage/Rose/___/W.Tath
Whatever/Whatever/Atila's/Brutal
Korazin/Whatever/Rajas/Whatever
Belenos/Whatever/Whatever/Whatever
+ Carbonara

26 STP, but you'd actually want more than that because you'll want to take most of that gear off for weaponskill. Could consider TPing in Hoard. It doesn't really seem worth it over just 7-hitting though.

What is with the dislike for hoard ring? In abyssea you're going to be capping dDEX and fSTR with Razed ruins+Eve anyways I would imagine.

[Byrthnoth]

If you're wearing Hoard, you aren't wearing Blitz.

I'm going to avoid making a STP or WS damage GA until it becomes obvious whether it's possible to conveniently 5-hit with the STP GA but not the WS damage one.

[Darkmagi]

Well war can cap haste without blitz now regardless. Tbh I totally forgot about blitz though lol my bad.

[FailureMidgard]

War could hit what, 29 haste now if they wanted? ;p I keep meaning to do math and actually compare various warrior setups (like, using Ravagers Mask+2 for TP with 24% haste), but way too lazy...at the very least, warrior has a lot more potential options than any other job out there, and can drop haste all over the place.

[Villian]

Speaking of hoard ring -stats in abyssea, isn't ebody somewhat meh now in abyssea? Askar body has DA and 5stp, aurum body has 7stp, perle has 2% crit hit rate.

[turbotortuga]

For COR Quick Draw:

MAB Magian Gun or Bedlam+1? Which is going to put out higher numbers?

[Jeherrit]

MAB will do slightly more

[turbotortuga]

MAB will do slightly more

Can I get some hypothetical numbers to support that conclusion please? What kind of percent difference are we talking here? Also for all around usage [WS,TP,QD] is there any gun barring Armageddon/Death Penalty that is better than Bedlam+1? Just want to know before I pour all my precious Birth coins into it...

[Neisan]

Ignoring staff bonus/zodiac ring/day/weather the MAB gun does about 5 more damage on QD over bedlam+1 (assumed +33 MAB with bedlam+1/+41 with MAB gun including the gun itself), but the bedlam wins if you Weaponskill/TP with it.