What's Better?

[Jeherrit]

Yeah, MAB gun only wins when QD is your only source of damage, as long as you can make some use out of wildfire Bedlam will pull well ahead in overall damage. Bedlam is definitely not a waste unless you get an armageddon instead.

Edit: as for better guns for all around usage, WS+10% gun could theoretically beat it if you melee for TP and have enough r.att to get enough damage out of slug but really, Wildfire looks to be a much easier WS to get good numbers with and reduced enimty gives you much more freedom to use it at will. If you're looking for a single gun to cover all your Cor needs bedlam or armageddon are your best options.

[Julian]

I don't really read these stickies so this may have been answered before, I'll probably search/read through it later, but:

I've recently been working on my melee jobs I don't use as much, mainly DRG WAR and THF, and they kinda lack weapons right now. Been using Perdu, Blau/somecrap, and Tomoe cause there's never any of the better DRG polearms on the AH, but anyway, I want to maximize them and start doing magian trials for them.

Which Polearm/GA/Daggers would be the best way to go? I have razed ruin, but still working on the eve atma.

I'm thinking the +10%WSDMG polearm. WAR I'm not sure about, 10%WSDMG, STP, STR+8? Occasionally attacks twice? The WOE version would also be doable.

For THF, I have no fucking clue. I'm thinking doing double agi daggers would be pretty easy (you can trial 2 at the same time, right?) since it would also double as a solo weapon, and has high damage compared to other daggers. I'm also planning on leveling DNC in the near future, if that affects anything at all.

thanks for any input, probably gonna go read through older pages now <_<

[Nightfyre]

DRG: WSDMG+10% is the way to go unless you have the means for a 5-hit STP or an OAT.

Daggers: You can work on two simultaneously, but they can't be on the same trial. As a result, you'll only be able to double up on certain trials (can do Plantoidsx300 for first dagger while doing any mobx50 and Morbolx200 for second dagger).

[Yugl]

Get the OAT (Best) or sTP (second best) lance. If you can't 5-hit it now, you'll eventually be able to.

[shepardG]

What's the best setup for spirit and soul jump now? Is the focus on STR/Attack/Acc ?

[Khajit]

atk+15 vs str6 in abyssea with razed ruin and eve atmas?

[Yugl]

What's the best setup for spirit and soul jump now? Is the focus on STR/Attack/Acc ?

Remind me to work on the set later, but it depends on your atmas. If STR Atmas cap your fSTR, you'll want ATT or STR that equates to more ATT during Jump. Alternatively, you could argue for a double attack build.

[Byrthnoth]

atk+15 vs str6 in abyssea with razed ruin and eve atmas?

Depends what weapon you're using and how many Furtherances you have, but I'd tend towards Atk+15.

[turbotortuga]

For RNG TP/Sidewinder:

Bateleur+1 or Harrier+1. They have the same delay, so essentially it boils down to DMG+6 vs Str+8 R.Atk+18. I made the Fire bow first but then I got enough decay coins for Harrier, so I made it as well. Please exclude Jishnu's Radiance from this comparison as I'm not very happy with this weaponskill. That is until I can figure out the mods to make the damage as consistent as Sidewinder.

[Fallyn]

For RNG TP/Sidewinder:

Bateleur+1 or Harrier+1. They have the same delay, so essentially it boils down to DMG+6 vs Str+8 R.Atk+18. I made the Fire bow first but then I got enough decay coins for Harrier, so I made it as well. Please exclude Jishnu's Radiance from this comparison as I'm not very happy with this weaponskill. That is until I can figure out the mods to make the damage as consistent as Sidewinder.

Isn't the +stat on the weapon thought to be the mod? (in this case Gandiva has DEX+10, so DEX mod)

[Nemesio]

How much better are the ToTM staffs over +1 staves? For nuking on RDM if it matters.

[Kirschy]

How much better are the ToTM staffs over +1 staves? For nuking on RDM if it matters.

Magian staves are 1.3 modifier, HQ staves are 1.15 modifier. 1.3/1.15 = ~13% increase in damage at the cost of some mg acc.

[Plow]

I don't really read these stickies so this may have been answered before, I'll probably search/read through it later, but:

I've recently been working on my melee jobs I don't use as much, mainly DRG WAR and THF, and they kinda lack weapons right now. Been using Perdu, Blau/somecrap, and Tomoe cause there's never any of the better DRG polearms on the AH, but anyway, I want to maximize them and start doing magian trials for them.

Which Polearm/GA/Daggers would be the best way to go? I have razed ruin, but still working on the eve atma.

I'm thinking the +10%WSDMG polearm. WAR I'm not sure about, 10%WSDMG, STP, STR+8? Occasionally attacks twice? The WOE version would also be doable.

For THF, I have no fucking clue. I'm thinking doing double agi daggers would be pretty easy (you can trial 2 at the same time, right?) since it would also double as a solo weapon, and has high damage compared to other daggers. I'm also planning on leveling DNC in the near future, if that affects anything at all.

thanks for any input, probably gonna go read through older pages now <_<

As far as war, how serious do you want to be about it?

If all out, Ukonvasara (derp).

If WoE is reasonable but Uk is not, it becomes a lot more of a toss-up. Maschu +1 is fantastic, but for fell cleaving ws+10% is sickness.

OaT is a fun toy, but doesn't really compete with the good options. Although, with razed ruin, that's probably up for debate again. With near 100% crit rate on rr and the buff to restraint, ws frequency is an even bigger deal now.

If you don't want to put in a bunch of effort, there's basically 2 choices at this point:

It's not reasonable to 5-hit Sumeru+1 without sam roll yet, and the stp is not needed to 6 hit. However, down the road a 5-hit sumeru is highly likely.

So, you can either go with the stp one for the long run (and fun with sam roll/stp/regain atmas), or the ws dmg for now and redo it for the stp when it becomes the best choice.


edit: almost forgot... magnus stone weapons are surprisingly impressive, and again especially so with current crit rates

[Xerlic]

Does 5-hit OAT GKT still beat all other magian GKTs barring WoE and Masamune?

[Massimo]

It's not reasonable to 5-hit Sumeru+1 without sam roll yet, and the stp is not needed to 6 hit. However, down the road a 5-hit sumeru is highly likely.

So, you can either go with the stp one for the long run (and fun with sam roll/stp/regain atmas), or the ws dmg for now and redo it for the stp when it becomes the best choice.

There's plenty of ways to 5-hit it as of now. WAR's getting haste out of the ass these days, and there's been a lot of new STP pieces added lately. Between Carbonara outside Abyssea and VV atma inside, it's a lot easier than you make it out to be.

[Plow]

It takes a huge amount of stp still, enough that you're giving up basically everything except haste for it. It's not "hard" by any means, just don't think it's worth what you lose.

[Massimo]

It takes a huge amount of stp still, enough that you're giving up basically everything except haste for it. It's not "hard" by any means, just don't think it's worth what you lose.

You're giving up fairly irrelevant things. In this day and age, you have +80 STR/DEX by default, meaning the only really important stats will be Haste and STP (and to some degree, attack). Outside Abyssea accuracy is a non-issue, and you can certainly afford giving up some att/str/dex in your TP set to keep a 5-hit.

[Byrthnoth]

Maschu+1/Rose/___/W.Tath
Turban/AF3 neck/Attila's/Brutal
Aurum/Dusk+1/Rajas/Hoard
Tactical/Speed/AF3+2/AF3+2
30 STP from gear, 6 STP from food, 15 STP from /SAM
27% Haste - so you can NQ feet, legs, or hands.

51 STP
13.7*1.51 = 20.6 TP/hit
+14 STP required on WS (default to 16 including Rajas/Brutal/Rose/Carb).

If you remove Atilla's during TP, you need to WS in it to maintain a "true" 5-hit (which you'd actually probably want because Ukko's is only 2 hits base).

[Massimo]

Using Goading in that setup would keep 26% haste and free up some STP spots.

[Byrthnoth]

True, Back -> Belenos for +23 Attack and 8 Acc. W.Tath -> Bomblet/Core or Attila's -> Aesir Ear Pendant depending whether you want to WS in Attila's or not.