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  1. #761
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    You guys get into the biggest bitch arguments, swear to god.

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    We're arguing over whether people should get the STP or WSDMG+% Lance. People have a stake in this because they want to know which lance is better. Otherwise, I would roll my magic 8 ball and give them an answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoex View Post
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    Hecatomb Feet +1 or Ravagers Calliage +2 for the set bonus currently using Ravagers Mask+2 on RR? Can set bonus activate on WS? Already have seen a 2100 critical with the "Augments Double Attack" set bonus during TP phase
    It's presumed the set bonus doesn't proc on WS, but you probably want the Ravager's feet anyway for the increased crit dmg. There's also the fact that a "perfect" ws set at this point is probably going to carry a fair bit of -acc for war.

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    Nocturnus mail or Zahak's mail for raging rush/ukko's? Assuming inside of abyssea(eve+RR atma).

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    Timarli Dastanas are easy to obtain with low numbers? Do tell! Behemoth in La Theine scares me.

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    For Corsesca +1 (OA2) DRG 5-Hit Build inside Abyssea with VV/RR Atmas:
    Pole Grip vs Claymore Grip vs Brave Grip

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    Not Pole, and would Rose free up some useful slots/food?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Not Pole, and would Rose free up some useful slots/food?
    Yeah, I'm sure Rose would be best. However, I never did much Campaign so I'm looking for the 2nd best option until I rank up enough to get one.

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    3% boost to critical hit damage, or 3% boost to critical hit rate.

    ([Crit Hit Rate]+3%)*[Crit Hit Bonus]*[Average Crit pDIF] + (1-[Crit Hit Rate]-3%)*[Average Normal pDIF] = [Crit Hit Rate]*([Crit Hit Bonus]+3%)*[Average Crit pDIF] + (1-[Crit Hit Rate])*[Average Normal pDIF]

    ([Crit Hit Rate]+3%)*[Crit Hit Bonus]*[Average Crit pDIF] - [Crit Hit Rate]*([Crit Hit Bonus]+3%)*[Average Crit pDIF] = (1-[Crit Hit Rate])*[Average Normal pDIF] - (1-[Crit Hit Rate]-3%)*[Average Normal pDIF]

    ([Crit Hit Rate]+3%)*[Crit Hit Bonus] - [Crit Hit Rate]*([Crit Hit Bonus]+3%) = 3%*[Average Normal pDIF]/[Average Crit pDIF]

    [Crit Hit Bonus] on DRG/SAM with Razed Ruins is 30% (130% used)
    [Crit Hit rate] on DRG/SAM with Razed Ruins, no other crit gear, and 4 Crit merits is 54%

    57%*130% - 54%*133% = 3%*[Average Normal pDIF]/[Average Crit pDIF]

    .76 = [Average Normal pDIF]/[Average Crit pDIF]

    [Average Crit pDIF] = 1.33*[Average Normal pDIF] <--- The two options are equal when this is true. My Crits average is often more than 1/3 greater than my normal swing average even with capped pDIF. We've found the equilibrium point, so we need to test which wins in our realistic case where Crit pDIF is more than 1/3 greater than normal swings. For the sake of simplicity, set Average crit pDIF to 2 and normal average pDIF to 1.

    ([Crit Hit Rate]+3%)*[Crit Hit Bonus]*2 + (1-[Crit Hit Rate]-3%)*1 = [Crit Hit Rate]*([Crit Hit Bonus]+3%)*2 + (1-[Crit Hit Rate])*1

    Left side is larger, so Claymore grip would be better most of the time in Abyssea.

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    Thank you Byrthnoth!

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    Hachi hands or something I'm overlooking?

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    Hachi hands used to be the go-to, but post-abyssea you're going to be better off with af+1 for the extra .6 wsc and 3 attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EjinCaitsith View Post
    Nocturnus mail or Zahak's mail for raging rush/ukko's? Assuming inside of abyssea(eve+RR atma).
    Adaberk? >_>b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Hachi hands used to be the go-to, but post-abyssea you're going to be better off with af+1 for the extra .6 wsc and 3 attack.
    FFFFFFFFFF

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    Welllllz, RDM nuking stuff's

    current set:
    HQ staves/Elementa Grip/-/Phantom tath
    Maat's/Lmg. medallion or uggy/novio/moldy
    Teal/zenith/omega/snow
    Hecate's/witch/teal/goliard

    Upgrades i'm looking into:
    main >>Magian Staves, hear their easy to do on BLM, was gonna go ice/lighthing Hi-damage, Earth/Wind/Ice Hi-Acc... ?
    sub>> would more INT be better than Elemental skill?
    ranged>>
    ammo>>witch stone is on the todo list
    head>> is warlock's chapeau better?
    neck>> ???
    ears>> I can swap in m.acc earrings, but i don't think that's my problem with MM atma
    body>> yeah.... :/
    hands>> Eradico would be nice, i'm a ways down the list though
    Rings>> aquilo's x2 better than omega+aquilo's ?
    back>> not sure here either
    waist>> witch sash get's outparsed by cog belt right?
    legs>> wicca ??
    feet>> Lot's of choices, the VNM in aby-konschtat will probably be my quickest easiest path to a decent nuking feet.

    Anyway thanks for any help before hand, I've also been looking into trimming up my spellcast, if anyone has a decent RDM they enjoy.

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    Estoqueur's Chappel +1 (+2), Estoqueur's Fuseau +1 (+2).
    Also, Eradico Mitts aren't a bad low man either.

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    Parsed self with RR+SS on NIN vs dc-T spiders/frogs/Spider NM in Miseraux and got 90% melee acc. w/o food in 2hrs.
    Also did about 3 of the Spider NM in so-so evasion gear so might have affected the parse.

    What upgrades would help cap melee acc in my current set:

    Main: Hochomasamune
    Sub: Kamome
    Ammo: Fire Bomblet
    Head:Iga Zukin +1
    Neck: Tiercel Necklace
    Ear1: Brutal Earring
    Ear2: Suppa
    Body: Nin Chainmail +1
    Hands: Dusk gloves
    Ring1: Blood Ring
    Ring2: Rajas
    Back: Iga cape
    Waist: Swift Belt
    Legs: Byakko's
    Feet: Iga Kyahan +1

    Thinking of switching back to PCC + Toreador maybe? or get Kusha's/Lava's Ring (ughh) Still Finishing up Iga legs and then have to think about tp set again...

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    Never use kusha's/lava's ever. Man up and buy a toreador's. Switch the neck piece to PCC/Iga/Ancient and the back piece to sharpeye if you still are concerned about your acc.

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    Lava's + Kusha's are a no-no.
    A DEX Sekka +1 would be really helpful if you're willing to make an elemental trial, too.

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    We all know that WS gorget is best for weaponskills but how much better is WS gorget compared to Justice torque for Kaiten?

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