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    Tiphia Sting or Threw Bomblet for SAM TP?
    Don't have the means of getting a Black Tathlum at this moment, money could be spent on better upgrades.

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    atm martial is still better than the deto+10% gun, str gun would probably be the best gun for slug shot if you can cap acc with it (could probably manage this on old content mobs). Honestly have no idea how much merit there is to the sTP gun, might be good for leaden salute spam? Not sure. MAB gun is better than anything short of armageddon for QD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesio View Post
    Tiphia Sting or Threw Bomblet for SAM TP?
    Don't have the means of getting a Black Tathlum at this moment, money could be spent on better upgrades.
    Thew Bomblet. You shouldn't have meaningful Accuracy issues and 2 Accuracy isn't worth the gains you get from Thew.

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    So footwork oa2-3 and poise will probably be phased out next update... but I'm assuming this is for mnks who have BB and cap gear haste with h2h? What about for brown belt h2h vs poise/oa2-3 footwork? I can cap gear haste with poise/brown belt/footwork/oa2-3 but I've only got 21-23% gear haste with h2h atm, depending on if I need to make acc swaps on neck/feet.

    So ~4% haste vs lower base damage with capped gear haste for next update? Mostly deciding if I wanna dump poise or keep them until I get BB.

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    Another add on to the Magian guns. Bedlam vs Martial for Slug/Deto? I don't mind going and rebuilding to another Magnatus in waiting for the gems since I barely do it as is, just curious if Bedlam can give Martial a run for its money atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocara View Post
    So footwork oa2-3 and poise will probably be phased out next update... but I'm assuming this is for mnks who have BB and cap gear haste with h2h? What about for brown belt h2h vs poise/oa2-3 footwork? I can cap gear haste with poise/brown belt/footwork/oa2-3 but I've only got 21-23% gear haste with h2h atm, depending on if I need to make acc swaps on neck/feet.

    So ~4% haste vs lower base damage with capped gear haste for next update? Mostly deciding if I wanna dump poise or keep them until I get BB.
    IF we assume that all gear remains as it is right now, then you might want to stick with Footwork if you're still using Brown Belt. However, had you asked me three months ago if Monk would ever get access to a reasonably-acquired pair of gloves with Haste on them (there's some ANNM augmented bangles with it, but you can bet on never seeing them), I'd have said it'd never happen based on past evidence. Then SE goes and puts two pair of them in the game. So, at this point, all bets may well be off.

    Personally, I spent the past two months trying to get Poise Shoes with zero success and have since given up that dream because they'll almost certainly be obsolete soon. If they are not, that'll be egg on my face, but I imagine Lugarhoo will be even more trivial come level 90.

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    same deal as the str gun really, it's better than martial for slug if your acc is good enough but martial still pretty much beats everything else for detonator until next update at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argdar View Post
    How do the Magian guns compare for Corsair now? How does the str Mayhem (D45 Str6 rAtk16) compare to non-magian options like Martial?
    If you have the accuracy to back it, it wins on Slug.

    Similarly are the Detonator+10% or STP guns worth getting or are they not worth the effort?
    Not worth it.

    Also, would the MAB+8 Mayhem beat the last upgrade to Magnatus for just Quick Draw?
    Yes.

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    Higher enmity gain as PLD curing for 397 HP and 8 enmity or 406 HP and 2 enmity?

    Comparing Bahamut's Mask vs. Adaman Barbuta (Cure Pot +2%) for curing.

    Another PLD question; regarding HP-/HP+ self cure cheats, is it better to do a full Cure III two times vs. doing a full Cure IV once? I'm assuming the enmity gain from two Cure III's will be greater than the one Cure IV, just haven't looked into the different enmity values in Cure III and Cure IV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddha_masta View Post
    Higher enmity gain as PLD curing for 397 HP and 8 enmity or 406 HP and 2 enmity?

    Comparing Bahamut's Mask vs. Adaman Barbuta (Cure Pot +2%) for curing.

    Another PLD question; regarding HP-/HP+ self cure cheats, is it better to do a full Cure III two times vs. doing a full Cure IV once? I'm assuming the enmity gain from two Cure III's will be greater than the one Cure IV, just haven't looked into the different enmity values in Cure III and Cure IV.
    http://code.google.com/p/ffxipaladincalculator/

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddha_masta View Post
    Higher enmity gain as PLD curing for 397 HP and 8 enmity or 406 HP and 2 enmity?
    397*1.08 > 406*1.02. That doesn't properly indicate your CE and VE gain but it's an accurate measure of which nets more enmity.

    Another PLD question; regarding HP-/HP+ self cure cheats, is it better to do a full Cure III two times vs. doing a full Cure IV once? I'm assuming the enmity gain from two Cure III's will be greater than the one Cure IV, just haven't looked into the different enmity values in Cure III and Cure IV.
    http://kanican.livejournal.com/tag/enmity%20table!

    Once you've found your answer there...

    Spoiler: show
    While curing for the same amount nets equal hate either way, I'd still favor the first approach in the even that it allows you to stack more enmity per cure. I'm not completely familiar with PLD gear but this seems likely to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    397*1.08 > 406*1.02. That doesn't properly indicate your CE and VE gain but it's an accurate measure of which nets more enmity.
    He needs to provide us with the rest of his enmity in gear because right now, the .06 difference (6 enm) is a lot more significant than it would be normally.

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    I honestly just assumed he gave the full +enmity, though you're right that that makes no sense

    Some quick math says the first build wins regardless though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    He needs to provide us with the rest of his enmity in gear because right now, the .06 difference (6 enm) is a lot more significant than it would be normally.
    OK, PLD curing for 397 HP and 8 enmity vs. 406 HP and 2 enmity

    397 HP Cure is from +43 enmity

    406 HP Cure is from +37 enmity




    P.S. Again, this is for self cure cheat. For normal Cure IV, enmity stacked is quite a bit more.

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    First build still wins and will continue to win unless you somehow break the game and get in the range of ~157 enmity before the head slot.

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    TY

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancaster View Post
    Praecis Gorget vs. Sea Gorget for RR/KJ?
    Sorry for the repeat, but I still can't figure out which is better.

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    New to BST, wanting to create a Primal Rend build for it. Trying to figure out body piece. I have both a Kirins Osode and a Mirke Wardecors (augmented with MAB+4, Quick Draw piece). So which is better between these two? If there is something better than both then feel free to PM, I understand this isn't random question thread.

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    Assuming you're using a 20% DA build:

    Sea Gorget is a 0.1 increase in fTP and a ~3% damage and 10 Acc.
    Praecis Gorget is 3 STR (1-2 base damage is going to be less than 3%), 15 Acc, and 2-3 Attack. I'm uncertain that Conserve TP is capable of saving a 6-hit WAR 1 hit to 100TP, so I'm valuing it at nothing.
    Ravager's Gorget is a .04 increase in fTP and a ~1% increase in damage with 5 Acc.

    So Ragager's Gorget is shit. Praecis Gorget may be the best if it lets you drop Acc for stats elsewhere, which isn't really true because we don't know anything's Eva anymore. Sea Gorget is the good old reliable WS piece, and probably what you should be using.

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    Should I be ditching my osode in favour of a teal body for BRD debuffs?

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