What's Better?

[Kidnoftle]

Iga/Suppa, Iga/Brutal, or Suppa/Brutal? NIN obviously.

Iga/suppa swap out body to ninaf3+2 or juogi +1

[Esvedium]

Iga/suppa swap out body to ninaf3+2 or juogi +1

Good general answer, but depends on what haste buffs you have. 80% delay cap, etc.

[Nightfyre]

Speaking of which, did we ever nail down the exact DW value on Iga earring? I know Failure said it was ~2-3% but haven't seen anything from there.

[shadee]

Str+5 Agi+3 Subtle bow+5 vs Ranged Attack +12 feet for Rng for WS. This is already keeping in mind that I usually go STR over Ranged Attack and that I use the magian STR bow.

I've always heard conflicting thoughts saying one should always try to go RATK > STR on RNG. Anyone care to elaborate?

[Kidnoftle]

Speaking of which, did we ever nail down the exact DW value on Iga earring? I know Failure said it was ~2-3% but haven't seen anything from there.

even if its 2-3% it should outdo swapping out body and losing 2% dw for 4% crit rate, more so if the body raises your acc%

[Nightfyre]

even if its 2-3% it should outdo swapping out body and losing 2% dw for 4% crit rate, more so if the body raises your acc%

Was wondering for my own purposes. After further reflection it's probably 3% like the Mirke augment.

[Soho]

even if its 2-3% it should outdo swapping out body and losing 2% dw for 4% crit rate, more so if the body raises your acc%

You're also losing the 5% Double Attack from Brutal Earring to make that change. Is that still worth it?

[spider123]

Got this today:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/duo424/Togi.png

Unsure if it's worth the inventory space or not, thoughts?

[Rehn]

Got loki's kaftan? Looks meh to me.

[Kuishen]

Best three Atma for THF? Want to know what to use/what I have to get. Non-rudra's storm if it matters.

I assume VV, RR for the first two, but for the third?

EDIT: And if you say fucking Atma of Dread I will kill some kittens.

[Clash Perez]

Best three Atma for THF? Want to know what to use/what I have to get. Non-rudra's storm if it matters.

I assume VV, RR for the first two, but for the third?

EDIT: And if you say fucking Atma of Dread I will kill some kittens.

What are you doing? DDing, tanking, THing? If you've got all three furtherances your fSTR should be capped with daggers, so VV comes out to be some double attack and regain, since dagger WS don't have secondary STR mods.

Gnarled Horn has a nice crit rate boost, and the AGI does double duty to limit TP feed and boost TA damage if you're not solo-tanking. With RR+GH+Dark Depths you can hit ~94% crit rate while flooring monster's hit rate on quite a few things. Scorpion Queen is nice when you don't need the extra AGI/eva, since it can shave off a couple of attack rounds between WS.

TL;DR version: shit's situational, as THF start by get anything with crit/evasion/AGI/DEX in the description and adjust for the situation.

Also, Atma of Dread.

[Pandorablue]

I dunno how THF differs from DNC, but you should probably have GH in there to take advantage of Evisceration's critability.

I've pulled off some pretty decent Evis with just RR+GH, and my ws set for it is absolute shit at the moment.

[Byrthnoth]

Gnarled Horn, Razed Ruins, Dark Depths is probably the best combination for Thief. (potentially TA Atmas)

[Kidnoftle]

You're also losing the 5% Double Attack from Brutal Earring to make that change. Is that still worth it?

Uhmm I guess I'll just try and math it out later but its going to be both att speed value and sub dependent.

[Kuishen]

Gnarled Horn, Razed Ruins, Dark Depths is probably the best combination for Thief. (potentially TA Atmas)

What about Atma of the Omnipotent? another 50 DEX would still make your crit rate pretty high and give better ws damage along with it? Iunno, just asking.

[Mercilessturtle]

Best TP rings for pup without epona's? I'm not sure how to value storetp on a h2h job, Rajas+excelsis? Rajas+hoard?

[Nightfyre]

What about Atma of the Omnipotent? another 50 DEX would still make your crit rate pretty high and give better ws damage along with it? Iunno, just asking.

dDEX caps at 50, so cruor buffs + Razed Ruins alone should cap your base critrate. I'm inclined to agree with Byrthnoth and go RR + GH + DD.

[Clash Perez]

What about Atma of the Omnipotent? another 50 DEX would still make your crit rate pretty high and give better ws damage along with it? Iunno, just asking.

Razed Ruins and cruor buffs are going to cap your dDEX on anything without a ridiculous amount of AGI, so you won't gain any crit rate from additional DEX. Any additional crit rate is going to have to come from gear or atma. It will boost SA and WS damage, but practically guaranteeing each landed hit in a WS as a critical should do more for your WS, especially if you're hitting the crit damage +50% cap.

Edit: beaten.

[Kuishen]

Aight, ty.

[Waraurochs]

Warlord's Axe
DMG:118 Delay:488 VIT-3 AGI+5 Eva+5

Or
Vermeil Bhuj
DMG:104 Delay:504 STR+8