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  1. #21
    The Defense is ready, Your Honor
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    ^ Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't P3 end today? That would make any additional beta keys all but useless at this point, seeing how the next step is open beta.

  2. #22
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    True except as far as I know the open beta isn't really open.. you still need a key. If these are registered before P3 ends then the accounts will be good throughout open beta.

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  4. #24
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    Non-sanctioned online Petitions always work.

  5. #25
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    anyone know what's "xxxx skill proficiency" you get from fights for? where can i see it in the stats?

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamanosukeShiva View Post
    anyone know what's "xxxx skill proficiency" you get from fights for? where can i see it in the stats?
    Those values are added to your total at the end of the fight. It's how much skill points you get for your next class rank.

  7. #27
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    It is a little hard to determine how much skill/proficiency you actually gained per fight since you gain skill during the fight (randomly) for regular or special actions. Is the amount at the end the total amount of skill gained during the fight or is it in addition? It seems that it is an addition to me, but I wasn't motivated to scroll back and add all the skill ups to see if it matched.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    OK stop it right now, there is already a thread for the "surplus"

    Starting after this post I will give infractions to anyone who talk about surplus in this thread

    Is that clear?
    What about now that there isn't one?

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by neubian View Post
    It is a little hard to determine how much skill/proficiency you actually gained per fight since you gain skill during the fight (randomly) for regular or special actions. Is the amount at the end the total amount of skill gained during the fight or is it in addition? It seems that it is an addition to me, but I wasn't motivated to scroll back and add all the skill ups to see if it matched.
    What you get at the end is just a total of what you gained during the fight, which is what Hyan said.

  10. #30
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    I locked it. Dont fucking bring that shit up again.

  11. #31
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    Can't say toon or raid or talk about surplus.
    This section's mods fucking suck.

  12. #32
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    Wait whats this about toons/raid? lol

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    Talk to your boy Ratapapa for that one.

  14. #34
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    Meh.

    It's a (big) part of the game. Random bitching aside, we should be able to talk about it.

    Of course the discussion will heat up, but it was in one thread so what's the big deal =/

    /prepares for infraction


    Also Akiyama, this whole system is ALL about casual vs. hardcore. Can't just ignore it.

    Oh fuck- I didn't say that.

  15. #35
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    Omfg hahahaha. I think Sonomaa fixed that one.

    As for the surplus thread, think of it as a time out without giving infractions to all the morons in that debate. I'll re-open it eventually.

    That wasn't a fucking discussion. It was trolling/flamebaiting by certain people. Thats all I will say. Drop that argument now.

  16. #36

    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackheartX View Post

    @Surplus
    If the evil Gaijin rumors are true about surplus, why don't they just go the smarter route and do what someone on this forum suggested by allowing rested exp? Allows casuals to level faster and doesn't visibly gimp the hardcore. Only contradiction I see stopping this is idea is...
    Spoiler: show
    WOW DOES IT!!
    Except that WoW had EXACTLY this system in beta, and changed it to what their current rested is for release. It used to cut your EXP by 50% after being logged on for a certain amount of time, now it boosts your EXP by 200% based on how long youve been logged off.

    So if youre suggesting this system is being forced down our throats for the sake of innovation... its not even that. Simpsons did it.


    User was infracted for this post.

  17. #37
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    Any idea when? I just finished typing up a rational (I swear!) post, when the lock came down.
    Thank god I thought to copy it before I hit post, Or I'd be really =/.

  18. #38
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    deja vu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domon Kasshu View Post
    Talk to your boy Ratapapa for that one.
    Use the search. Don't talk about anything I don't like. Lock threads instead of cleaning them up and giving out infractions.

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    The moderators in this section need some moderating.

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