Job Adjustments Part I (08/27/2010)

[Sho]

My thoughts on Animus Augeo and Animus Mineo is that they are spells that directly boost and lower enmity values on a target. If it is so, then it would be very interesting to see if it's a direct boost to VE or CE or both. Would help PLD and NINs hold hate more easily, and if it's Accession-able (Mineo), just made many mages happy.

As for Break, I think it'll be more potent than the common belief at the moment. They wouldn't have made it level 85 for it to simply be a useless spell. Also the fact that considering if low level, Too Weak/Easy Prey mobs happen to land Petrify status on a PC, it tends to last almost the full duration (or long enough to be annoying).

Addle has the potential to be broken, but it would have to be a -15~25+% Magic Defense Down Effect (Enervation is -8% and Acrid Stream is -10% in comparison).

-Ja Line of spells seems to be Tier V Ga spells (Well, at least Waterja looks like Waterga V on AltanaView).

Refresh II will be Accession-able (just to mess with Spider-Dan).

[Priran]

Well, at least Waterja looks like Waterga V on AltanaView

nah.

[Rocl]

wait why are people thinking Addle is anything but Amnesia

VERMEIL BHUJ EXISTS, THEREFORE ADDLE IS AMNESIA PROVE ME WRONG

[Damane]

i really dont think break will be as potent as mobs break, just look at blu spells, most of them are also not as potent as the mobs counterpart... SE nerfs spells that can/could be OP, Break definitly falls into that category

[Priran]

brb googling the name of the new ninjutsu spells and tools so I can tell what they do because that worked last update

[Hyan]

All I know is that Myoshu means "5 shadows" in ancient Japanese.

[Raen Ryong]

Oh man how amused I am with all the RDM QQing about Refresh II. Yet these same RDM would be QQing if they DIDN'T get Refresh II.

Please RDM bitching whores, don't ever change.

Where am I QQing? I want Refresh2! I was just jokingly saying that after Accession Refresh I'm not wanting to go back. Geez...

[Nightfyre]

Where am I QQing? I want Refresh2! I was just jokingly saying that after Accession Refresh I'm not wanting to go back. Geez...

I will be very sad if my RDMs take this stance for real Regardless of what we get via spells BLU is indirectly getting a nice boost here in party play just from all the extra refresh.

[Rocl]

I already know Red Mages that refuse to single target Refresh at all anymore.

[Shenrien]

Must be hard casting refresh on themselves if they refused to even cast it on a single target.

[CDF]

Aren't you the guy who was saying NIN is supreme and blows shitballs all over MNK a week or two ago?

No, but not like it matters.

Where TP-burn is relevant (with ideal support), the situation reduces to the fact that no Hasso cannot keep up with full-time Hasso, durrrrrrrrrrrrr (currently anyway).

Eh, while that seems like a non sequitur by itself, the c.w. is that NIN is well behind MNK (basically true) which is behind 2H DD, but then that's where "no Hasso" vs. full-time Hasso applies.

[Sho]

I will be very sad if my RDMs take this stance for real Regardless of what we get via spells BLU is indirectly getting a nice boost here in party play just from all the extra refresh.

Hah, you say that after getting Self-Refresh. The idea of princess RDMs popping up 'cuz of Refresh II fills me with hilarity.

[Rocl]

Must be hard casting refresh on themselves if they refused to even cast it on a single target.

Not if you're the center of the AoE

[Nightfyre]

Hah, you say that after getting Self-Refresh.

Not sure what you're getting at here. Battery Charge was a big boost when solo or not with a RDM for whatever reason and will continue to be useful in those situations, but if I can get a better Refresh of course I'm going to ask for it. Wouldn't mind having those 3 set points back either.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Every DRK or PLD has a dnc in every party at every fight in the game, I thought you knew this.

If you don't have it most of the time, your members are just lazy. We generally have more dancers available than necessary, and two more people are in the process of leveling it now. Oh, and you have twice as many active members.

[Hanyoko]

So i can Saboteur my Dia III but not Bio III. I was about to get all excited with using it on Bio3 until I remember it was dark magic =~.~=

I sure do hope those Gain/Boost spells stack with the current Absorb line.

Makes me wonder if there will be a HP boost spell then too; I think it was bubble in 12.

I'm so going to go into a dynamis bastok and break one of those damn scorpions; just for the irony.

[Zag]

SMN: Am I the only one that is mentioning that SMNs titan gets Aoe StoneSkin II?? Thats what I read the new Blood pact as anyways.

BLM: I did not expect BLM to get break but it will be immune to almost every HNM in the game without ES. With ES it probably lasts like 5 secs on an HNM. ja is probably ga 3 with the elemental DoT added onto it.
Blms can convert,aspir, aspir II the mob, and get 5/tic ballad and 5/tic refresh II with evokers roll 5/tic... Damn, mages will never run out of MP now. Manaburns will return on the harder NMs but so will melee burns cause of the new "titan" BP.(I assume its titan).

DRK: Endark does not stack with souleater so do not get your hopes up.
The delay roll from corsair could bring ppl close to the prenerf haste cap in terms of delay from DRKs but will NOT affect recast timers like utsusemi most likely.

BRD: Ghorn might be a magian item this update making the ballad III even more nasty.
Lulluby II is very nice as well. Carols II is amazing for magic casting mobs. Now you can stack dark carol and dark carol 2 against meteor? They also have a PDT song which I am 99% sure will stack with 50% cap from gear just like haste stacks with the 25.5% haste from gear.

NIN: I think the 2 new ninja spells are haste and phalanx which would be epic as all hell. They are ichi's though and will have a slow cast timer. They need something BADLY as they are at the bottom of the barrel in terms of jobs in this game. They got nothing last update and their 2 hour is lol on anything that matters.

MNK: I like the skillchain bonus with the new WS spam from the magian weapons that we recently got.

RDM: super shadowbind with elemental seal and new JA + Bind? Super duration on gravity that never seems to wear... also the potency of the mobs speed? A 6 sec stun duration?

[Maksudyst]

DRK: Endark does not stack with souleater so do not get your hopes up.

I can see it stacking with Souleater, just not Blood Weapon.

[Zag]

I could be wrong but last time i checked, the enspells or samba's did not stack with SE.

SMN as a support job has gotten so interesting. I can't wait to see how SMN BRD COR and RDM can shit on a mob with their debuffs on mob and buffs on party. The mobs in Scars of abyssea must be hard as hell.

[Sho]

Not sure what you're getting at here. Battery Charge was a big boost when solo or not with a RDM for whatever reason and will continue to be useful in those situations, but if I can get a better Refresh of course I'm going to ask for it. Wouldn't mind having those 3 set points back either.

Lol, just teasing man. I do however wish you could tell Spider-Dan (and a few others in this thread!) the bolded part however. It's simply something that will happen, all considering. Which is why I can't see it not working with Accession. If it doesn't, I'll eat mah words.