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  1. #21
    The Syrup To Waffles's Waffle
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    Pointing this out now.
    Blitzer's Roll (COR Lv.83)
    Reduces melee attack delay for party members within area of effect.
    Reduces melee attack delay
    attack delay
    delay

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    REFRESH II!!!!!! Amazing! Addle and Saboteur sounds like it could possibly become overpowered in some situations. I'm sure it will be kept in check though, and Sabotuer with other enfeebs will be very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldelphia View Post
    Looking at the image, ~ja's are AOEs but I wonder if there's more to them than just Thundaga IV?
    Probably, can't imagine why they'd break the tier pattern otherwise.

    Blitzer's Roll is probably haste, but I'd lol for days if it was straight delay reduction...

    Some very interesting stuff in here, curious to see how it pans out. DRG JA sounds shitty though, same bullshit as Spirit Jump and shares recast with High Jump...

    Efflux at least suggests we'll see a new physical spell this update (due for a couple anyway), likely damage varies with TP.

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    I'm kind of upset BLM is getting Break but simultaneously curious about confuse (Addle).

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    Blitzer's Roll probably means something akin to how Haste Samba works (JA Haste) rather than a Delay reduction. If it's the latter, though... LOL

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    I like the thought of the -ja spells maybe being tier 4 aga but with an added elemental DoT, like thundaga4+shock for a limited duration maybe?

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    Straight delay reduction would be beastly for DW jobs, no so much Hasso users lmao.

    Break and Addle sound like the next 1k Needles/Jettatura to me honestly... ie somewhat nice in theory but useless on anything that matters in practice. Would love to be proven wrong though.

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    Wow...... I really should level BRD again now...

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    Yeah, Haste Samba and Hasso are considered JA Haste so the new roll should be JA as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    Actually, they didn't.





    It sucks because once December rolls around /NIN will be THF's best DPS sub again.
    Ok, let me rephrase that.. if /nin is still best DPS after december you lose nothing. If on the other hand, you're fighting one of oh, say 9 billion mobs you don't want to feed tp, your thf is only there for T hunter whoring and added hate control and job abilities and has to sub sam for the event.. and worst case is it's only DW1.. you still gain the stats from the off hand weapon, you still gain the extra hit on WS.. I guess I'm still missing the "suck".
    Gift Horse, I'd like you to meet Mouth.
    DW3-4 > DW 1 >>>>>> DW 0

    Oh yeah, and you still gain another 5% with suppo.. You can offhand a thf knife and use a real one for mainhand.. blah blah blah... Seriously.. where's the Suck?

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    Lets see here

    Haste Samba:

    increasing the attack speed
    Hasso:

    Grants a bonus to attack speed
    March:

    Increases attack speed
    Haste:

    Increases target's attack speed
    And then...

    Spoiler: show
    out of nowhere


    Blitzer's Roll:

    delay

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    So... SMN gets some form of crit down ga and and attack down ga...

    I'm not sure I'm right about the first one. If it's mitigate crits, it's worthless. If it is, for some reason, a way to lessen big hits, then it might be godly.

    I have to wonder, with this pacing, it looks like we'll perhaps get 6 or 7 more ward spells. This is somewhat disappointing because it means there probably won't be any more rage spells.

    How do other SMN feel about this? I'm assuming we're going to get lost among the Refresh II Ballad III Break Amnesia orgasm.

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    It can go either way tbh. Like SE has never misworded something before. Should check to see what the JP/EU update notes say.

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    EU notes state delay reduction as well so I don't know.

    Game Description: Reduces delay for two-handed weapons when using Last Resort by 5% per merit.
    OUT OF NOWHERE


    Edit: German

    ・Brachial-Wurf (COR Lv.83)
    Erhöht die Angriffsgeschwindigkeit aller Gruppenmitglieder im Wirkungsbereich. Glücksnummer: 4. Unglücksnummer: 9.

    My German might be rusty but I'm almost sure Erhöht is increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sruon View Post
    EU notes state delay reduction as well so I don't know.



    OUT OF NOWHERE
    SLANDER

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    If its only DW1 its more of a slap in the face to thfs than anything. Only useful during the few instances where you dont have access to a sub job so you dont have to carry around a shield anymore. And if all you are is a TH whore then who gives a shit what you sub in the first place, worthless thfs are still gonna be worthless thfs regardless of what they sub and how many daggers they can wield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenKnux View Post
    So... SMN gets some form of crit down ga and and attack down ga...

    I'm not sure I'm right about the first one. If it's mitigate crits, it's worthless. If it is, for some reason, a way to lessen big hits, then it might be godly.

    I have to wonder, with this pacing, it looks like we'll perhaps get 6 or 7 more ward spells. This is somewhat disappointing because it means there probably won't be any more rage spells.

    How do other SMN feel about this? I'm assuming we're going to get lost among the Refresh II Ballad III Break Amnesia orgasm.
    To be honest smn needs all the wards they can get. All great for event fights but still not so much for everyday party use. If the next wave is another round of buffs be happy and hope they make them unique, awesome and desired enough for an all purpose use.

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    Google translate on the new Ninja stuffs:

    Myoshu: Ichi: NIN Lv.85
    妙手の術:壱 忍Lv85
    "The art of expert" (Ninja Tool Expertise buff maybe?)

    Yurin: Ichi: NIN Lv.83
    幽林の術:壱 忍Lv83
    The art of deep forest

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    Just pointing this out for all the people that said Addle will be overpowered. In FFXII it was this:

    Addle / Mental Break - 35 LP
    - Decrease one target's magic defence point.

    So basically Dia for Mdef, sounds a lot more balanced and makes sense than the other description.

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    so, I guess rdm still gonna be a rf whore if there are other mages in the pt.
    BLM/RDM > rf prz
    RDM > rf urself ffs
    BLM/RDM > QQ

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