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  1. #1301
    Relic Horn
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    Decided to try duoing Lieje with 2 BLUs. Everything was going fine until instacast flare2 finished off my partner at 20%. Then managed to get it down to 1% before this... Goddamn you, Head Butt.

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  2. #1302
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    What is that "[Head Butt] 0:00" in the log?

    Also, lol.

  3. #1303
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    If only you had M.ACC swords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaviorSelf View Post
    If only you had M.ACC swords.
    THE JPS WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG!

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    Has nothing to do with macc, its acc. Macc would only effect the add proc of stun when the spell connects. I killed the joke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Has nothing to do with macc, its acc. Macc would only effect the add proc of stun when the spell connects. I killed the joke!
    I think that was the joke.

  7. #1307
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    I think the real random fail is people playing a useless shitty job~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurara View Post
    I think the real random fail is people playing a useless shitty job~
    You need it to proc grellow all the time, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurara View Post
    I think the real random fail is people playing a useless shitty job~
    Teehee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurara View Post
    I think the real random fail is people playing a useless shitty job~
    Fair enough, but it kills Lieje faster than any other job/duo. It hasn't come out of storage for a long, long time.

    Shit's situational, etc.

    Edit: I guess MNK just punching through the spikes might kill it faster with a good WHM. But neither of us have MNK or WHM. Either way, 90 seconds beats the inevitable 15 minute it takes some RDM/NIN to solo it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyHobo View Post
    Fair enough, but it kills Lieje faster than any other job/duo. It hasn't come out of storage for a long, long time.

    Shit's situational, etc.

    Edit: I guess MNK just punching through the spikes might kill it faster with a good WHM. But neither of us have MNK or WHM. Either way, 90 seconds beats the inevitable 15 minute it takes some RDM/NIN to solo it.
    I had a similar experience, was killing iktomi, proc'd grellow, deagg'd proc'd grellow again and wiped at 10% was furious lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyHobo View Post
    Either way, 90 seconds beats the inevitable 15 minute it takes some RDM/NIN to solo it.
    Comparing solo to duo? Really?

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    Am I the only one that noticed they named an NM after a song?

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    If I was a rich gal! MANANANANANNANANANANANAAAAAAA

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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    Comparing solo to duo? Really?
    Went back solo and took me 5 minutes. Maybe the RDMs that claim it are just generally incompetent or play too defensively. Even the RDM/NIN and SMN duo took 10ish minutes to kill it. When outclaimed, I've offered to kill every single one without taking drops just to get the ToD faster without wasting more abyssea time on it. Unfortunately, they rarely accept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyHobo View Post
    Maybe the RDMs that claim it are just generally incompetent or play too defensively.
    You just described 99.9% of rdms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    You need it to proc grellow all the time, bro.
    2box mule~

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyHobo View Post
    Fair enough, but it kills Lieje faster than any other job/duo. It hasn't come out of storage for a long, long time.

    Shit's situational, etc.

    Edit: I guess MNK just punching through the spikes might kill it faster with a good WHM. But neither of us have MNK or WHM. Either way, 90 seconds beats the inevitable 15 minute it takes some RDM/NIN to solo it.
    Wat. Takes me ~20-25 seconds solo, maybe duo if I don't have a fools drink on me so someone can cure me once! Mnk is the most overrated job in this game atm~

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    Define overrated. If by overrated you mean it blows all other dds clear and away then I'd guess you're right. If you mean that it isn't technically the best job due to both defensive and offensive traits then I'd have to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    Define overrated. If by overrated you mean it blows all other dds clear and away then I'd guess you're right. If you mean that it isn't technically the best job due to both defensive and offensive traits then I'd have to disagree.
    I think this is exactly what he meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    Define overrated. If by overrated you mean it blows all other dds clear and away then I'd guess you're right. If you mean that it isn't technically the best job due to both defensive and offensive traits then I'd have to disagree.
    I have a well geared mnk, the only time it even seems like the right job for a task is a blueproc whore. It's garbage for building upper tier popsets as it has almost no red proc WSes. Nin, Sam, War, and even Drk will complete a popset far faster (with equiv support) than a mnk will. Mnk 2hr is fairly useless. Admittedly, I'm used to having a significantly stronger WS than most Sams (Kaiten, now Fudo), but even a Vereth monk still can't kill a t1 NM after proccing red nearly as fast as I can (~20 seconds). I fully admit that with RR, looking at damage output over an extended period of time, a (vereth) mnk/war will beat me (though I still think I'll destroy him outside of Abyssea), but the fact of the matter is - I can't recall the last time I really cared about that. A mnk won't come close to touching my killspeed on any lower tier NM, and it seems to me the majority of the upper tier NMs are better off mana burned and/or kited/back tanked while you try to proc grellow on them. That being said, I do find myself using mnk quite a bit on Ovni, Turul, Ironclads, Vileberry, and tons of other NMs purely for the fact it's so convenient to proc blues. Outside of that, it's well, overrated. I agree it's solid damage, I'm not trying to say it's bad - just that it's nowhere near what it's made out to be here both offensively and defensively. And again, I have a very well geared monk (minus weapon).

    But ya, it's a solid job, a very strong job, it's just not what some people seem to make it out to be as the only option or go-to job. I think it's inferior in a lot of situations, superior in others. Odd how that works...

  20. #1320
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!
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    Does this mean im not stupid for still working on my SAM?!

    Inb4, you were always stupid.

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