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    Quote Originally Posted by The Finesse View Post
    If the bitch spit-roasted the puppies after drowning em and fed a family of six you'd have a point. Right now you just sound like a whiny dipshit. Try shutting the fuck up and dislocating some simple logic before attempting to communicate with the rest of the human race.
    If she did that their would be an even bigger outcry here. But lets assume that wasn't the case.

    What about recreational fishing? Bull fighting? Duck hunting? Spider/Insect fighting (As an Afghan vet I'm sure you woulda seen some form of this)? Badger baiting? Wolf hunting? Their's a tonne of examples of popular bloodsports out there that nobody really cares about, until you bring puppies/kittens into the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuvo View Post
    If she did that their would be an even bigger outcry here. But lets assume that wasn't the case.

    What about recreational fishing? Bull fighting? Duck hunting? Spider/Insect fighting (As an Afghan vet I'm sure you woulda seen some form of this)? Badger baiting? Wolf hunting? Their's a tonne of examples of popular bloodsports out there that nobody really cares about, until you bring puppies/kittens into the equation.

    Congrats on missing the point for one. What you think you're white knighting a bitch right now?

    Catch and release fishing? Is the same as throwing puppies in a river? And this is a counterpoint to me calling out numbnuts over here making a comparison to killing animals we eat en masse to throwing puppies in a river? You are really dumb, for real.

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    Why don't you go throw some birds off a cliff you sick bastard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Finesse View Post
    Congrats on missing the point for one. What you think you're white knighting a bitch right now?

    Catch and release fishing? Is the same as throwing puppies in a river? And this is a counterpoint to me calling out numbnuts over here making a comparison to killing animals we eat en masse to throwing puppies in a river? You are really dumb, for real.
    Not really a counter, more like adding to what he said, given the context it was said in, which you no doubt missed. I don't really care to go into more detail then that though.

    Anyway, I listed a whole bunch, and can list many more, and you chose to nitpick a single case. Most of the others I listed are arguably a lot worse then throwing puppies in a river, given the prologued time it would take to die (e.g. bullfighting). As for catch and release fishing, you're impaling fish through the mouth with a jagged hook for the sake of recreation. Maybe not as bad as tossing puppies into a river (as you're just causing severe pain to the animal instead of killing it), but as you don't even consider it to be comparable at all, it just proves my point further.

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    And now you are all reminded about that poor poor dog that was thrown off a bridge then whined for 5 minutes. 4chan is on the case, lots of threads about it last night. One you people talking about puppy mills, you forget one crucial part... they don't film the shit that they're doing for some cheap thrill. I'm not saying puppy mills are good or whatever but there's still a difference.

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    Who the fuck brought chickens and pigs and shit into this? We fucking eat them. We don't eat drowned puppies. At least most of us don't.

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    Personally i don't care if it was a puppy, kitten, or a calf. Tossing anything newborn into a river is fucked up. I'm not saying it would be ok if they were dogs ether but they can swim by then, and i would like to see the bitch try to throw a cow.

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    Did someone necrobump a thread from 2008?

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    My wife breeds dogs, we have 3 litters right now, they all get 2 sets of shots before we sell @8 weeks. They all have health records including the mothers and the studs.

    Breeding dogs and puppy mills are 2 entirely different things.

    Incidentally we just had some pups that didnt sell so we gave them to this girl for free. She didn't mention to us what she had planned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
    Massive amounts of inbreeding, more concern for arbitrary "show" traits than for the puppies' health, and the thousands of dogs living/dying in shelters.

    But really... couldn't this have gone in the other animal abuse thread? It's horrible, but circle-jerking outrage on the internet isn't doing anything to help.
    Everyone who breed dogs or cats isn't like this. The stupid people are. A good breeder knows that pure-breed dogs are often less healthy and more inbred, and actually take time to find dogs that aren't inbred - and don't focus on a particular trait which is bad for the dogs.

    Hell, I've been threatened by other breeders because I'm against inbreeding and only letting them mate with purebreeds. I let my cats run around outside and mate with whichever male cat they want. It makes for healthy kittens without the birth defects or bad traits normal purebreeds do. I mean, sure, it lowers their price, but it makes the more healthy and happy, which is what matters.

    Sadly, this is what other breeders loathe, hence the threatening.

    I agree - breeding dogs and enhancing the bad traits (such as flat nose which affects their breathing and eyes), or hanging stomache which can give them severe problems, are horrible. Hell, some breeds are forbidden to breed in Sweden, because they're considered animal abuse. Sadly, that goes for a lot more breeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzor View Post
    I agree - breeding dogs and enhancing the bad traits (such as flat nose which affects their breathing and eyes), or hanging stomache which can give them severe problems, are horrible. Hell, some breeds are forbidden to breed in Sweden, because they're considered animal abuse. Sadly, that goes for a lot more breeds.
    In actuality, how many breeds actually suffer badly from bred traits? Pugs, english bulldogs, american cocker spaniels... I can't think of any others. The majority of breeds are kept healthy by responsible breeders who better the breed.

    Also, whoever keep going in threads and comparing dogs to prey animals, you're an idiot. A dog is domesticated to perform a job as a companion or a worker. A deer or fish is a prey animal, it's not domesticated, it's wild and offers food and supplies to the higher places on the food chain. That is a TERRIBLE comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    Wow looking at the info it looks like they found her. Theres that pic of her, BF (Camera man), and a dog that looks like the puppys. Plus a few of the people posting live near her.

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    /b/ scares me lol.

    Oh well, no sympathy for a girl who was stupid enough to do something like this and then publish it on the internet.

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    I don't really see the point of any sort of breeder argument. There are countless animals put down in shelters (even kittens) every year. Breeders contribute greatly to this number regardless of the conditions of the animals they raise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swarley View Post
    Also, whoever keep going in threads and comparing dogs to prey animals, you're an idiot. A dog is domesticated to perform a job as a companion or a worker. A deer or fish is a prey animal, it's not domesticated, it's wild and offers food and supplies to the higher places on the food chain. That is a TERRIBLE comparison.
    So what, horses are both workers/companion animals and food.
    There is no shame in admitting that when it comes to condemning animal cruelty the main reasons behind it are "cuteness" and "emotional response". There's a difference if someone kills my own pet or a random animal I've never seen before, even if they're the same kind of animal. Of course nobody sane in their mind wishes for something like that to happen, but bursting in anger every time a cat or dog gets mistreated? That's a bit too much now.

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    Mistreated and tossed into a river are two different things lol. Ether way this debate is retarded and anyone starting fights on the rights and wrongs of animal cruelty is just trolling.

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    Ignorance of some people in this thread when it comes to breeders is pretty amazing. All the dogs that my breeder has sold are in loving homes. NONE of them are in the pound. He is a reputable breeder who has extremely high standers when he breeds and when he sells. REAL breeders do not add to the pet population in a negative way. Puppy mills on the other hand are completely different. Pet store animals, are completely different. Do your research before you start spouting out bull shit.

    As far as the video goes, not even going to bother watching it because it would make me snap my laptop in half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantrag View Post
    Ignorance of some people in this thread when it comes to breeders is pretty amazing. All the dogs that my breeder has sold are in loving homes. NONE of them are in the pound. He is a reputable breeder who has extremely high standers when he breeds and when he sells. REAL breeders do not add to the pet population in a negative way. Puppy mills on the other hand are completely different. Pet store animals, are completely different. Do your research before you start spouting out bull shit.

    As far as the video goes, not even going to bother watching it because it would make me snap my laptop in half.
    Totally agree with this. A true reputable breeder will take back any dog they have bred, at any time, for any reason. They will also require you to sign a spay/neuter contract on pets. Reputable breeders are not responsible for the over-population of dogs in shelters. Of course backyard breeders and puppy mills are a whole different story.

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