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  1. #1161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    My main counterexample was an 8 hour pickup party killing 2.5 mobs/minute that I left my mule in for 8 hours.. given 28 pachypodiums, 7.5/repop cycle is a bit over 1/4 the max attainable killspeed(which you aren't hitting in fell cleave burns anyway, holding mobs slows down actual repop timer) so should have capped in 4 hours and never did. I was hastebotting on a mule and making sure boxes were opened, but typing it out made me realize main error in using that as a sample: mule was like level 40.

    However, I don't think this has any effect on the camp choice. A pickup isn't doing this, and in Solanis's example, she's still limitting her party to less pops and increasing (minor) risks/slowdown by using mobs that blood aggro and can cast sleeps. The main relevance is that a top tier party may be more inclined to do mandragora knowing they can cap that quickly: 28 spawns is the most of any popular abyssea camp. The main drawback, of course, being the slower build-back rate when you spend merits or change jobs. You could argue someone will have ruby, but realistically there'll be zone-outs constantly to spend merits and the people staying in zone are the 75-84 dd, which are predisposed to get less killshots. 28/23 is a 21.7% increase in #/mobs, but that makes the camp harder to own and your potential may not be high enough to keep up with using all of the mobs anyway.
    Maybe my luck was terrible, and I haven't done a /shout group that wasn't organized (and had at least ~8 people from) by my LS in forever (in before 8 is enough to do Abyssea exp - wanted various jobs that we didn't have a main or mule for), but from my limited experience, /shout groups struggle enough to end up with positive time and even make it worth going, hitting 600/kill wasn't even worth considering, to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    To answer myself, just tried, got it to 86% in liek 15 minutes before i warped away (oh oops, i pulled it down near some exp camps lol).
    At 10%, it starts spamming a TP move that does ST20, Terror, Hate Reset, and Bio(3?). It's quite possible you could do the last 10% without giving it any TP, but it seems to me the combination of all of that (Terror was lasting 20+ sec on me, ST20 and bio longer than that) would hurt a bit, so the last 10% would be even slower than you're implying atm.

  2. #1162
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    Would Cassandra and Helenus earrings be worth it at all for sch? Or would I be nuking in something else?

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    Moldavite/Morion +1 (Phantom +1)

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    Thanks, saved me camping those stupid weapons.

  5. #1165
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    They are still good for the macc for some spells but I wouldn't waste the inventory space on them.

  6. #1166
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    Has the Enhances Quick Draw effect on Navarch's Bottes +1 been tested yet? Trying to decided whether to go after the Legs or Feet first.

  7. #1167
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    I can say for sure its not damage...Go for feet first though, the stats are pwn for QD

  8. #1168
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    At 10%, it starts spamming a TP move that does ST20, Terror, Hate Reset, and Bio(3?). It's quite possible you could do the last 10% without giving it any TP, but it seems to me the combination of all of that (Terror was lasting 20+ sec on me, ST20 and bio longer than that) would hurt a bit, so the last 10% would be even slower than you're implying atm.
    That would give me 10 (unless its ws gives more than 10 tp...) nukes to finish it off from 10% by forcing it to ws at 11%. That's not a problem really. Even if i got resisted too much, i still have poison to slowly take it down. Also i've got 3 different fanatics drinks, so it's not even an issue anyway.

  9. #1169
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    At 10%, it starts spamming a TP move that does ST20, Terror, Hate Reset, and Bio(3?). It's quite possible you could do the last 10% without giving it any TP, but it seems to me the combination of all of that (Terror was lasting 20+ sec on me, ST20 and bio longer than that) would hurt a bit, so the last 10% would be even slower than you're implying atm.
    It starts it at 20%

  10. #1170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurara View Post
    It starts it at 20%
    Fanatics would be needed then, but since you can buy one of them, it's not an issue. Just save ascetics until the end, to make sure it dies before a second ws.

  11. #1171
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    Which quests put out DRK and RDM head/feet seals?

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    What's the name of the new ammo piece with 4 str 4 vit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Which quests put out DRK and RDM head/feet seals?
    An Acrididaen Anodyne and Scattered Shells, Scattered Mind

    Quote Originally Posted by Zatho View Post
    What's the name of the new ammo piece with 4 str 4 vit?
    Tantra Tathlum

  14. #1174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    An Acrididaen Anodyne and Scattered Shells, Scattered Mind
    Bleh, gonna need fame for the first (Recommendations?), but it doesn't seem too hard. Second sounds like hell. Can the linkshells be found at all points, or just select ones in certain groupings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Bleh, gonna need fame for the first (Recommendations?)
    All of the nonrepeatable quests there are quick. Do resistance quests for the remaining fame (should be around 5-10 or so if you do all the non repeatable quests).

  16. #1176
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    Do the adds at bomb queen give exp? (Trying to think of a way to make firesday bombs less shitty)

  17. #1177
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    Pretty sure no, they don't give xp.

  18. #1178
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    Any place w/ decent amount of fire weather for lizzards (not sure if it's lizard type or lizard mob btw. Last lizards i had both raptors and leaping lizzies counted however). Gonna try to get a head start before next firesday.

  19. #1179
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    Does anyone know what zones have fire weather the most?

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    Altepa.

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