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    So is your team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Ben is overrated imo.
    Please watch the Steelers v. Packers game from week 15 of last year. Roethlisberger is fucking good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    But saying that the Bengals have a handicap because of that is retarded-- if he's overrated. Overrated =/= not good, it means that people place him in Tom Brady tier when all he really is is another McNabb that happened to win some SBs.
    Ok, you really don't know what the fuck. Tell me, have you watched a single game that Roethlisberger has played?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headspace View Post
    Carsons best statistical games have usually come against the Ravens, and that's with Ed Reed, and back when they had good corners.
    Oh you mean back when Baltimore had no WR's either?

    I'm not saying Cinci can't win the division, I'm just saying that they're going to have to work a lot harder for it than the Ravens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    Please watch the Steelers v. Packers game from week 15 of last year. Roethlisberger is fucking good.

    See: week 10 Philadelphia vs. the Chargers. One good game =/= elite. Again, overrated =/= not good.

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    All I know is Hines Ward made me a happy fucking camper in FF last year. That alone proves Ben is a great QB given Hines can't even see the ball anymore. If he didn't make perfect throws, Hines wasn't catching shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    See: week 10 Philadelphia vs. the Chargers. One good game =/= elite. Again, overrated =/= not good.
    The point of that game isn't his ridiculous stats. His two minute drive at the end was sick, he made 3-4 throws that were absolutely perfect and kept the Steelers in the game.

    I know what you are doing, because I have done the same thing before. You are sick of hearing people fawn over a guy, when you personally don't have the best image of him(as a player) in your head, so you call him overrated. I know what you are trying to say, but it is wrong. He is elite.

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    Know who else is overrated? Eli Manning and Tony Romo. And by philly fans: Kevin Kolb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay View Post
    Oh you mean back when Baltimore had no WR's either?

    I'm not saying Cinci can't win the division, I'm just saying that they're going to have to work a lot harder for it than the Ravens.
    Them having no WRs has what to do with Carson tearing them apart?

    They gotta go through Leon Hall and Jonathon Joseph. The best tandem in the league, not to mention Pacman on nickel sets.

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    He's hard as fuck to tackle and therefor extends plays, allowing receivers to get open. He's fairly accurate. He's got great arm strength. He's exceptionally tall, giving him great vision. He's also recently incorporated the pump fake to throw off defenders that one step you need to open up space.

    Really, wtf else can you ask for in a QB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    The point of that game isn't his ridiculous stats. His two minute drive at the end was sick, he made 3-4 throws that were absolutely perfect and kept the Steelers in the game.

    I know what you are doing, because I have done the same thing before. You are sick of hearing people fawn over a guy, when you personally don't have the best image of him(as a player) in your head, so you call him overrated. I know what you are trying to say, but it is wrong. He is elite.
    And what I'm saying is that good QBs have spectacular games every once in a while, elites are consistent. I think there are quite a few QBs that are better than Rapistberger, yet he is still mentioned within the top 5. Look at Brees for example, there's not doubting his accuracy and skill but I don't hear as much mention of him. Whenever I hear of "elite" qbs it seems to get associated with Peyton Manning, Tom brady and Rapistberger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Know who else is overrated? Eli Manning and Tony Romo. And by philly fans: Kevin Kolb.
    one of them totes a superbowl ring. don't hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    The point of that game isn't his ridiculous stats. His two minute drive at the end was sick, he made 3-4 throws that were absolutely perfect and kept the Steelers in the game.

    I know what you are doing, because I have done the same thing before. You are sick of hearing people fawn over a guy, when you personally don't have the best image of him(as a player) in your head, so you call him overrated. I know what you are trying to say, but it is wrong. He is elite.
    And what I'm saying is that good QBs have spectacular games every once in a while, elites are consistent. I think there are quite a few QBs that are better than Rapistberger, yet he is still mentioned within the top 5. Look at Brees for example, there's not doubting his accuracy and skill but I don't hear as much mention of him. Whenever I hear of "elite" qbs it seems to get associated with Peyton Manning, Tom brady and Rapistberger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Know who else is overrated? Eli Manning and Tony Romo. And by philly fans: Kevin Kolb.
    one of them totes a superbowl ring. don't hate.

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    how thefuck did that happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abandon View Post
    one of them totes a superbowl ring. don't hate.
    And a HUEG contract

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Whenever I hear of "elite" qbs it seems to get associated with Peyton Manning, Tom brady and Rapistberger.
    He belongs in that group, along with Brees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    how thefuck did that happen.
    by beating a team that was supposed to go undefeated. i swear, when i get back to florida i'm going to skullfuck you, damned fool.

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    oh hay, double posts by both of us. win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    He's hard as fuck to tackle and therefor extends plays, allowing receivers to get open. He's fairly accurate. He's got great arm strength. He's exceptionally tall, giving him great vision. He's also recently incorporated the pump fake to throw off defenders that one step you need to open up space.

    Really, wtf else can you ask for in a QB?
    I have a question, why do people say he is hard to tackle, sure it may be true, but I feel a gigantic QB would be easier to tackle.

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