FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread VIII: Alpha Was The Best Beta v2 -_-;

**TacoTaru** · 2010-09-05 13:41

Gah, I'm really hoping there's a full keyboard option so I don't have to hit spacebar or / before I type. I know it's a minor nitpick but I for life of me cannot get used to hitting either before I type.

**Firehawk** · 2010-09-05 13:44

Originally Posted by Sign

Couple things (not a high priority for them at all I know) that have been irritating me lately.

1.) Can't set minimap to rotate
2.) Party members don't show up on main map and once they are outside of range on minimap there is no indication of where the fuck they are
3.) How the fuck am I supposed to repair undergarments if I can't take them off? Am I doomed to see that stupid armor degraded icon forever now?

Those & to make an official FFXI Control scheme are my only concerns.

**Biggie** · 2010-09-05 13:44

Originally Posted by sruon

still CTRL+R, but need to pop chatbox (space) before hitting it.

Also it looks like you need to send an initial tell before being able to ctrl+r

CTRL + r will pop up the last person you sent a tell to, kind of backwards lol but better than nothing. Hope they make it reply by release.

**Sign** · 2010-09-05 13:46

Originally Posted by Biggie

CTRL + r will pop up the last person you sent a tell to, kind of backwards lol but better than nothing. Hope they make it reply by release.

How is that backwards, Ctrl+R is a reply, you can't reply until you have received a tell. If you want to send a tell just hit Ctrl+t, or am I misunderstanding what you were saying?

**SeikenFreak** · 2010-09-05 13:46

Originally Posted by Kurokikaze

Not at the moment. I keep trying to hit square to open the window. ; ;

Haha.. This is funny cause I have Square tied to my Passive/Active mode.. so ill be walking around going in and out of attack mode.. /rage

**Biggie** · 2010-09-05 13:47

Originally Posted by Kurokikaze

You managed to hit surplus at 13 Biggie?! Thats ridiculous. I'm almost 15 and no surplus. I haven't been just grinding when I'm online though.

I'm almost 15 and haven't hit it. Been doing a lot of exploring and stuff so probably my surplus cooldown has been going back down.

For those who don't know... "Surplus" and "Bonus" are fairly similar in meaning (definition). They said that there will be a use for this leftover exp.

Sorry I was 14, but yes I have surplus now (bonus).
At first i was all confused, it kept saying "you gain 10 bonus skill" and I was happy lol. Then I noticed my skill was yellow and realized that it was surplus lol

**BlackheartX** · 2010-09-05 13:53

Originally Posted by Sign

Easiest fix would just be to set them to not take dmg.

Might happen, another thing that would be less unbelievably stupid is if I could repair my stuff without switching classes. If I have enough skill to repair why do I need to switch classes?... that might make more sense than SE as a company can comprehend. Also being able to select repair from the gear screen might make a little to much sense. I just don't see why I need to spend 30min switching classes to repair my gear, then another 2min switching back to my main class. Also watching the repair animation is pointless and a waste of animation but mostly of my time. Either say I failed but there's a chance I can fix it or say there's no hope go level your DOH more. Extremely bad design with pointless time sinks, I don't need to take forever to switch class per item and then spam repair until it actually works and then waste more time watching a stupid animation that doesn't give me skillups or anything that makes it seem remotely worth the time it takes to watch. /endmildnerdrage

@Biggie
That's really insulting if it's now really bonus skill.

**Holly Short** · 2010-09-05 13:53

Should I bother going to Ul'Dah for a higher rank shield or should I just get a maple one out of these bazaars for 25k that I'm seeing?

**ascalon** · 2010-09-05 13:55

Originally Posted by Biggie

Sorry I was 14, but yes I have surplus now (bonus).
At first i was all confused, it kept saying "you gain 10 bonus skill" and I was happy lol. Then I noticed my skill was yellow and realized that it was surplus lol

See, I got surplus at rank 14 in beta3, as did several other people I asked. I thought they were adjusting the thresholds during open beta, or did they say they were "looking at adjusting it"?

Because all it seems they've done is just lower the amount of skill you get drastically so people aren't hitting what seems to be a pretty similar value as quickly.

That being said, at least the surplus decay system seems to be working!

**Sign** · 2010-09-05 13:57

Originally Posted by BlackheartX

Might happen, another thing that would be less unbelievably stupid is if I could repair my stuff without switching classes. If I have enough skill to repair why do I need to switch classes?... that might make more sense than SE as a company can comprehend. Also being able to select repair from the gear screen might make a little to much sense. I just don't see why I need to spend 30min switching classes to repair my gear, then another 2min switching back to my main class. Also watching the repair animation is pointless and a waste of animation but mostly of my time. Either say I failed but there's a chance I can fix it or say there's no hope go level your DOH more. Extremely bad design with pointless time sinks, I don't need to take forever to switch class per item and then spam repair until it actually works and then waste more time watching a stupid animation that doesn't give me skillups or anything that makes it seem remotely worth the time it takes to watch. /endmildnerdrage

I agree with that for sure, especially with how clunky it is to unequip gear and cycle through the inv to find the item that needs to be repaired.

**Gokulo** · 2010-09-05 13:59

Originally Posted by Sign

How is that backwards, Ctrl+R is a reply, you can't reply until you have received a tell. If you want to send a tell just hit Ctrl+t, or am I misunderstanding what you were saying?

Actually, you can't use ctrl+r until you send at least one message to the person first. So you still have to type stuff the first time.

**CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon** · 2010-09-05 14:08

I'm close to 12 on thaum, but I've been leveling pug6, lancer6, conj7. Interested in seeing if I'll hit surplus at 13-14 as well and if playing other classes does indeed let surplus cool down. Problem is I think surplus resets on Mondays right? Means I'd have to grind tonight away, and that's sorta impossible since I have work in 30 mins.

Did they say they weren't releasing chocobos with retail? I really hope they do... anima doesn't regen fast enough to get around. You're better off just staying with one city than running to others. Or at least boost anima regen rate the more you run around. Running from city to city to check leve rewards for new gear is just a pain in the ass. Also with the rate at which you gain guild marks now vs the cost of a new skill via guild marks, your starting city based on the local guilds is pretty pointless. It's not like Beta 3 where you could get a skill every leve cool down when they only cost 500 points. My last guild mark reward was 880 thaum marks I think, and with a 5000 point price tag it'll take a while to get enough marks. Not really complaining, I think they should be a bit more difficult than beta 3 to get, but I was looking forward to getting the convert stat X to stat Y so I could play melee and mage without reassigning points a ton.

**ascalon** · 2010-09-05 14:12

Originally Posted by CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon

I'm close to 12 on thaum, but I've been leveling pug6, lancer6, conj7. Interested in seeing if I'll hit surplus at 13-14 as well and if playing other classes does indeed let surplus cool down. Problem is I think surplus resets on Mondays right? Means I'd have to grind tonight away, and that's sorta impossible since I have work in 30 mins.

IIRC surplus on any specific class resets 1 week after you began skilling up that class. It didn't sound like it was a set reset day.

**AlexRuzhyo** · 2010-09-05 14:13

Originally Posted by AlexRuzhyo

Retainer question: Hired one in LL, couldn't summon it in Ul'dah because it was bazaaring in LL's market. If I remove it can I summon it worldwide?

Gout passed up. Wondering if anyone knew so I dont have to spend 12-18 anima.

**Sign** · 2010-09-05 14:14

Originally Posted by Gokulo

Actually, you can't use ctrl+r until you send at least one message to the person first. So you still have to type stuff the first time.

Really? I don't remember ever sending an initial tell to anyone I have talked to. I have always just used Ctrl+r to reply to them I thought. I will have to check again tonight.

I know it has mentioned a few times about the lack of people partying but I am even more surprised at the lack of people talking in general. I have asked a few general questions in /say and gotten 0 responses. My assumption is that text is easilly missed when text from NPCs comes up in the middle but also spams your text box.

I really hope they implement the ability to create additional text boxes so I can split tell/linkshell/party to another box etc.

**Kurokikaze** · 2010-09-05 14:15

It's official... The FINALLY fixed cure hate.. Only took 3 phases and open beta.

Telliani · 2010-09-05 14:18

This is fun... Internet died, so both me and my husband are still 'in the game' according to the others in the party, but we had to restart the clients to log back in again and hitting the can't connect to lobby... Been about 10 minutes now.

**BlackheartX** · 2010-09-05 14:19

What about archer hate?

**Darte** · 2010-09-05 14:20

Quick question: When checking for updates via client, sometimes the color of the updater turns red. Does that indicate a type of update or something?

**sruon** · 2010-09-05 14:21

Red = Boot = Launcher/Updater itself (sorta POL Update)

Blue = Game

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