FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread VIII: Alpha Was The Best Beta v2 -_-;

[miokomioko]

If DEX still doesn't increase accuracy, I swear that it increases critical hit rate.

It's wholly possible that we will have a system that's something along the lines of~

STR = Attack + Accuracy
VIT = HP + Physical Defense
DEX = Critical Hit Rate + Critical Defense
INT = Magic Attack + Magic Defense
MND = MP+ Magic Accuracy
PIE = Magic Critical Hit Rate + Magic Critical Defense

It's hard to remove yourself from the FFXI system, but that seems like what they were trying to do... apart from the races/mobs.

P.S. The INT/MND/PIE were wild guesses, I don't know shit about magic classes yet.

[Valkrish]

looks like i'll be capping out STR as much as humanly possible -_-;

[Cantih]

So, I've been playing beta all day and now I feel rather stuck. I got to level 11 with 3 different classes at rank 5, used up all of my guild leves in Ul'Dah, and killed a bunch of mobs for spare skill.

Not clear if that's what you already did, and it doesn't help you now, but maybe you do it the other way round?

Grind mobs first, THEN use leves to cover the bad gaps?

[Gokulo]

If DEX still doesn't increase accuracy, I swear that it increases critical hit rate.

It's wholly possible that we will have a system that's something along the lines of~

STR = Attack + Accuracy
VIT = HP + Physical Defense
DEX = Critical Hit Rate + Critical Defense
INT = Magic Attack + Magic Defense
MND = MP+ Magic Accuracy
PIE = Magic Critical Hit Rate + Magic Critical Defense

It's hard to remove yourself from the FFXI system, but that seems like what they were trying to do... apart from the races/mobs.

P.S. The INT/MND/PIE were wild guesses, I don't know shit about magic classes yet.

Well the game tells you that...

Str: is P.Att
Vit: is P.def (and adds HP now)
Dex: is P.acc
Int: is M.att
Mnd: is M.def (and adds MP now)
Pie: is M.acc

[AlexRuzhyo]

Crafting needs more incentive or at least more support. So many synths benefit from a book/skill/key item/training but you can't get them until Lv20~ from marks... depressing. Bone Rings and Bone Hora are common R5 leves but I can't complete them for the life of me at R11. Copper Rings are attemptable at R3 but I'm no closer to succeeding a synth now than I was then. I can make the hemp yarn fine, can't do a cloth, but I can use both of those to make a turban no problem. Meh.

I don't know. It seems like some synths are easy and others are extremely difficult. It doesn't seem like rank matters except for not letting you try a synth.

[Holly Short]

Dunno if this is right place or not, but. Can anyone tell me where the gladiator and archer guild npc's are in Limsa Lominsa? We can't find them for the life of us.

[Gokulo]

Dunno if this is right place or not, but. Can anyone tell me where the gladiator and archer guild npc's are in Limsa Lominsa? We can't find them for the life of us.

Gladiator guild is in Ul'dah and Archer in Gridania ^^;

[AlexRuzhyo]

Yeah, LL doesn't have the guild reps standing around like it did is P3.

Also, as much as I hate the city and outlying areas it seems like the best place to level and farm crystals.

[Holly Short]

Oh, It said lower decks so I thought that meant it was in Lominsa. So we need to travel to other cities? How do we do so?

[Grey Jorildyn]

Games that have stats add HP and MP seem so 1990... that was what a lot of MUDs and PC games did back in the day and there was definitely a movement away from it this past 10-15 years. Why the step backwards SE? Bleh.

[Gokulo]

Oh, It said lower decks so I thought that meant it was in Lominsa. So we need to travel to other cities? How do we do so?

Where did it say so? And what for do you need there guilds?

[AlexRuzhyo]

Oh, It said lower decks so I thought that meant it was in Lominsa. So we need to travel to other cities? How do we do so?

Are you doing a crafting level by chance? I did some in LL and I was struggling to find the clients. "Lower Decks" does refer to the bottom half of the city.

[Cureslime]

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Even though I had reached my maximum rage quotient for the day I decided to log back in and try the Galagos myself. The reason they are so easy to kill is because they're bugged...they only attack like once every 20 seconds and turn away from you so you can smack them from the rear. If they attacked like normal mobs they would annihilate a lvl9 PUG. At the least you would be risking death with every battle. Still...can't argue with them skill points.

Since S-E is too slow to fix things they should still be broken on release. Hooray!

[Holly Short]

I was under the impression I need the guilds to learn skills and abilities? And it says both npc's are in Lominsa on Eorzeapedia.

http://www.eorzeapedia.com/wiki/en/Coynach

for example.

[Lordender]

Games that have stats add HP and MP seem so 1990... that was what a lot of MUDs and PC games did back in the day and there was definitely a movement away from it this past 10-15 years. Why the step backwards SE? Bleh.

You really gotta ask that after looking at the UI they went with and how they laid the foundation of the game to be 2002 instead of 2010?

[AlexRuzhyo]

I was under the impression I need the guilds to learn skills and abilities? And it says both npc's are in Lominsa on Eorzeapedia.

http://www.eorzeapedia.com/wiki/en/Coynach

for example.

The LL information is old. The line of Guild Representatives leading outside of LL are gone. You can only purchase mark items form the guild NPCs in the guild's home city. That NPC no longer exists.

[miokomioko]

Games that have stats add HP and MP seem so 1990... that was what a lot of MUDs and PC games did back in the day and there was definitely a movement away from it this past 10-15 years. Why the step backwards SE? Bleh.

I'm not sure why you think it's "a step backwards." It's not like something everyone universally decided to phase out. I have played plenty of RPGs where you could make decisions to raise HP instead of other stats. Hell, FF 12 and 13 both had it. Play some Odin Sphere where you specifically had to level up your HP separately by eating frequently.

I really do not get all this "it's 2010" bullshit. What is different about this year?!

Speaking of eating, is the food in this game on a favorite system like Crystal Chronicles or does food still have specific effects that they can observe? I've noticed from any of the shit I've eaten (never an actually prepared item though) that it never lasted more than 5 minutes maybe.

[Gokulo]

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3...0905014035.jpg
Even though I had reached my maximum rage quotient for the day I decided to log back in and try the Galagos myself. The reason they are so easy to kill is because they're bugged...they only attack like once every 20 seconds and turn away from you so you can smack them from the rear. If they attacked like normal mobs they would annihilate a lvl9 PUG. At the least you would be risking death with every battle. Still...can't argue with them skill points.

Since S-E is too slow to fix things they should still be broken on release. Hooray!

Weird I just tried one out as a PUG10 and it didn't seem bugged to me at all... I had to run away not to get killed lol ^^;

[Holly Short]

The LL information is old. The line of Guild Representatives leading outside of LL are gone. You can only purchase mark items form the guild NPCs in the guild's home city. That NPC no longer exists.

I see. But do I need to use the npc to learn things? And do I get there using the ferry?

[Gokulo]

I see. But do I need to use the npc to learn things? And do I get there using the ferry?

You seem to be in the dark about a couple of things Guild NPCs only sell you extra abilities and traits for Class Marks which you will start getting later on. You learn your normal abilities naturally while leveling your rank (on even levels: 2/4/6 etc). You need to go to Action and Traits and choose your profession from the drop down menu in the upper right.