FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread VIII: Alpha Was The Best Beta v2 -_-;

**Uzor** · 2010-09-06 21:33

Q: In FFXIV, do you plan on letting players give each other linkshell invites from anywhere in the world or will it remain the same that players have to be in front of each other?

A: That's interesting. We'll get back to you on that. That's a very good point and we may have to add that!

Someone need to ask them if they ever plan on allowing you to kick people from the linkshell from anywhere in the world. It is beyond retarded that you need to be able to target them in order to remove them from the shell. Whoever thought that was a great idea needs to be shot.

**arshesney** · 2010-09-06 21:33

Thanks, I totally missed that button. The real spot is nowhere close Northern Thaladan.

**Cureslime** · 2010-09-06 21:34

http://www.ffxivcore.com/wiki/Uwilsyng
http://www.ffxivcore.com/wiki/Claroise
In before lolcore

**SamanosukeShiva** · 2010-09-06 21:42

saw a leve called "Save the Lettuce, Save the World" lol, glad SE is using humor that i can relate to

**Chastiti** · 2010-09-06 22:07

I keep hearing that levequests reopen after two hours, yet I finished all of my quests yesterday and he still says there are none available. Anyone know why?

**mastamind** · 2010-09-06 22:11

Originally Posted by Chastiti

I keep hearing that levequests reopen after two hours, yet I finished all of my quests yesterday and he still says there are none available. Anyone know why?

No idea who told you 2, but its 48 hours.

**threnody** · 2010-09-06 22:14

Originally Posted by Uzor

Someone need to ask them if they ever plan on allowing you to kick people from the linkshell from anywhere in the world. It is beyond retarded that you need to be able to target them in order to remove them from the shell. Whoever thought that was a great idea needs to be shot.

I know you can remove from linkshell through the interaction menu (and THERE is a button that will be fun to avoid during laggy group events!) but there's also the option to exile from the linkshell list... IF they ever fix the "known issue" where your linkshell members appear offline when they're out of range.

**ascalon** · 2010-09-06 22:14

I believe the available quests cycle every 2 hours, but if you've done 8 you still can't exchange them for 48 hours.

I think the theory behind it is that, if you are grouping, 4 leves with a 30min timelimit should take you 2 hours (*scoff*) so after you've done 4, there's the chance that someone else in your group who had none can go get 4 different ones.

Sadly since leves take maybe 10-15mins tops at low level (apart from the ones in Gridania that take you past aggressive higher level mobs), its not a very good working model at the moment.

**Araelus** · 2010-09-06 22:16

Originally Posted by Cureslime

http://www.ffxivcore.com/wiki/Uwilsyng
http://www.ffxivcore.com/wiki/Claroise
In before lolcore

I guess that's the difference between some random wiki lots of people are flooding with info and my own self-built excel file. Thanks for the links, though.

**Celeras** · 2010-09-06 22:16

Doing more testing with conic-healing (sacrifice), and I cant tell if its the horrible lag making it clunky or.. just because its clunky and will always be so. Even on stationary targets, trying to move into position after initiating the cast is a headache. 2 second cast and I always turn properly in the right direction before its finished, and heals never land. People Im testing with say they don't see me turn until after the cast is over, even though I'm doing it in the middle of the cast and enduring the several second 'wait' after the cast is done. I had a lot of problems keeping up with a tank while fighting sheep because of the knockback.

Here's to hoping it's just the lag.. but anybody who's dual boxed knows what I'm talking right now. Move with character 1, and see the delay on character 2s screen. Always exists, but I never had a problem with snap-conic casting before in other games(WoW arena comes to mind, snap turning and casting CoC etc on something behind you didnt even have to be thought about). I hope SE isn't doing something stupid with the server/client relationship.

**Jinfire** · 2010-09-06 22:17

I just got Rank 8 Lancer and I was wondering were can I buy a better lance?

If I have to make one can you show/tell me the recipe and what rank I need to be on what craft to make it, thanks.

**Lucavi** · 2010-09-06 22:31

You ever try healing through knockback, Cel? Impossible, especially with the imput lag that's plaguing the servers right now.

I hope healing in real fights is much improved come retail. Enlarge the range or the width or something. I hate seeing people die when I'm curing, and it happens all too often in beta.

**Americayankee** · 2010-09-06 22:39

Originally Posted by Frein

So, basically you're saying it's ok to be a colossal dolt if you were one before and got over it? I don't understand how it was possible for SE to fuck up FFXI so badly at launch. I mean, it doesn't exactly take a genius to realize that rangers were indeed completely unplayable with arrows stacking to only 12. HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY MISS THAT???

We see the same kind of OBVIOUSLY broken shit everywhere in FFXIV. Why does SE always need a player to tell them how badly they fucked something up? It's like they don't even think these things through, let alone test them once implemented! It makes me so angry when they waste time making systems like BR that are so fundamentally flawed that they will never ever work in their current forms. There is no time to be dicking around with setting up BRs during combat and even if there was, why would you ever design a system that requires you to stop fighting? This shit is mind blowing! And don't get me even started on the market wards... ugh, it's like these guys have zero ability to predict how well that's going to work in retail because otherwise they wouldn't even try it.

My gripe with FFXIV isn't that it's incomplete, my problem with it is that SE clearly has no idea whatsoever of what they're doing. Perhaps they'll get this stuff right once we've cried long and hard enough, but why does it always have to come to that? Can't they design anything that works well from the get go? Heck, in FFXIV we even have systems that are identical to similar systems in FFXI except just plain worse. Not "different", just plain worse! The /tell system, the LS system, inventory sorting and controls (hello F8, <stnpc>, <stpc> and F1-6!) are just some off the top of my head.

This post needs more love.. it's basically exactly how I feel. How can they not just TELL some things don't work? Like.. fundamentally flawed shit that you would never even think you would have to tell them.

**Greedouw** · 2010-09-06 22:43

any decent newbie guides out there? I guess my Gladiator learned some skills... yet I can't find them anywhere.. (Yes, I fail)

**miokomioko** · 2010-09-06 22:51

The 2 hours thing is complete bull. I did one leve, and waited 24 hours and the same one did not open up. It's a 48-hour wait on any leve repeat and for the rewards to change. That's all there is to it. I've done a lot of testing with this as I'm trying my hardest to only repeat this one damn fishing leve that can reward the new rod (that I had). Thanks for the fucking roll-back.

The only thing odd I've seen was regarding a tutorial leve which, most likely, follow slightly different rules for new characters failing them.
(thinking about it in that context, that might be what that damn note was about regarding being able to immediately repeat a leve if you fail... it's probably only talking about tutorial leves...?)

**miokomioko** · 2010-09-06 23:08

Something odd... My game has been running -pretty- well on max settings (except AO). I just had a damn crash (like usual) on my way to a camp. No big deal really. I run the game again and now my framerate is complete shit. About as bad as most people's would be if they had AO on... which it is not. What the in the hell could possibly make the game start running like doodoo after a pretty common crash?

**Lucavi** · 2010-09-06 23:13

Edit: I know mods hate this, but I figured the issue out.

Gentaro · 2010-09-06 23:23

Originally Posted by Americayankee

This post needs more love.. it's basically exactly how I feel. How can they not just TELL some things don't work? Like.. fundamentally flawed shit that you would never even think you would have to tell them.

We have just received information about a hidden meeting in the SE-Headquarters. Unfortunately all information we could get was a single picture.

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/1...denmeeting.jpg

**TransparentMind** · 2010-09-06 23:27

They just need to fix the guildleve system. As much as I think everybody would love for them to change it to a 24 hour system, i'm referring to the constant crashing/disconnecting during them. Its really ruined any fun i've been trying to have with this beta.

I felt so bad today, I was in a trio doing a leve for someone trying to get his sentinel body and he crashed in the middle of it. He joined party again and said he wasn't on the mission anymore, so we told him to touch the aetheryte and maybe it will let him reactivate it again, and it did! He was so relieved that he didn't lose his sentinel leve and we were too.... Of course when we actually finished the quest and we touch the aetheryte =/ all he got was the same lame chunk of gil we got for helping him. He raged really hard and logged, and in all honesty I can't blame him. Getting that tiny ray of hope after he thought all was lost just pushed him over the edge when SE decided to buttfuck him in the end anyway.

If SE doesn't fix this by release... I can see a lot of bricks going through XIV developer's windows. >,>

**Caestus** · 2010-09-06 23:33

I thought the point of Beta was to be able to tell them concerns, however, I can not register for the beta forums to submit issues lol.... Fail..

also lol at a game that can not alt tab out in full screen mode...

There are a lot of good things with FFXIV, but so many things wrong as well :/

Currently my biggest gripe is no Auction House, having to look at retainers is annoying trying to find an item we may need.

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