Reasons why XIV is absolutely terrible

[Alleya]

I keep meaning to reinstall XIV and keep forgetting about it

Then you do understand.

[Kuya]

Forget about it forever

[Krye]

So would you recommend not even giving FFXIV a shot if I quit WoW?

[Qalbert]

quit WoW

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[Krye]

Having to do RBGs for conquest points is going to make the game unplayable for my 8 level 85 characters.

[Charismatic]

Krye, I don't like you at all and I wouldn't even wish FFXIV upon you.

[Kuya]

So would you recommend not even giving FFXIV a shot if I quit WoW?

might as well wait for tera or gw2 since rift is basically a prettier looking wow unless that's what you want

[Kuya]

notice how i ignored ffxiv

[Krye]

Guild Wars 2 looked kind of cool.

[Krye]

I wish more games would incorporate the FFXI system of being able to level all classes on one character.

[Kuya]

yes

[Kuya]

rift is close, but you have to pick 1 out of 4 classes, and then you get your 5 different mix and matches ems

[#686578]

1. Performance
   
   
   1. Frame rate, obviously
   2. Unable to move if the game is waiting to perform an animation on you
   3. Sometimes after switching to active mode you will be unable to move until death or teleporting
   4. Sometimes during combat you will be unable to perform any action while the mob will continue wailing on you
   5. Game LOVES to randomly crash for seemingly no goddamn reason. Each person has different things that will cause the game to crash consistently, for some ALT+TABing, for others anytime they enter a guildleve target area
   
   
   
2. Lag & Input Lag
   
   
   1. Takes forever to NPCs to load including friendlies and enemies (sup walking past 3 Lone Wolves and dying before they even load on screen)
   
   
   
3. Updater, no further explanation needed
4. Surplus, no further explanation neededI've heard reports that surplus is still gay, but massively less gay than we originally understood it to be so I'll strike this for now.Unstriked this, surplus is actually WORSE now because of exp rates, I'm actually surplused on 3 jobs currently from doing guildleves alone and no grinding at all. SE official forums say it'll be removed next patch but it's still fucking terrible at the moment
5. Logout/Crash during guildleve = fail guildleve.
   
   
   1. Additionally wandering too far from the area cancels the guildleve without notification or indicators of exactly how far away is too far
   
   
   
6. Low level solo guildleves are far too difficult to complete under certain circumstances (such as putting the target mobs to kill past many high level sound aggro mobs in a narrow alley)
7. I love it and I have a proven track record of only loving terrible thingsI hate it, but for some reason I keep playing. But I WANT to like it
8. You still have to apply for an open beta, they cant handle server traffic etc etc
9. Kuya has an unspectacular ass (In game, IRL ass is still spectacular)Kuya no longer has an ass in game that I am aware of
10. No F8 stillWe now have a full compliment of Fkeys
11. Mob difficulty checking being COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY WRONGAs far as I've been able to see this has been fixed. All mobs now have a difficulty and the difficulty is accurate. Red can mean VT or Impossible to Gauge like quest mobs back in XI.They removed that entirely and now tell you an exact level, however that level is not indicative of how hard the mobs will be. Certain mob types are harder than others but that's reasonably okay most of the time.
12. Apparently the crafting was designed by Xzibit, idfk I havent done craftingCrafting's been improved a ton, needs a few more tweaks but is mostly okay now
13. No F1-6 yet, not enough of the target commands we're used to from XI such as <stpc>, <lastst>, etcRefer to #10
14. Frequent teleportation will deplete your anima effectively leaving you stranded or unable to travel the vast distances that the game has in any efficient amount of time.
    
    
    1. This is still applicable but reduced due to favored locations, but I'm still leaving it up.
    
    
    
15. There are mobs that will poison you for 120hp/tick when you only have 900hp and there are no fucking antidotes in this goddamn gameThey nerfed the poison I was talking about pretty hard. Havent had any poison higher than 30damage/tick off these mobs and the poison lasts a short amount of time. There should still be antidotes though.
16. What the fuck? Fuck that. Level 26 seriously? They cant be fucking serious. Poisona is a basic spell, as basic as cure. If Conjurer is to be our healing class that is fucking ridiculous.
    
    
    1. This is still the case as of this edit
    
    
    
17. No GMs on releaseThere are now GMs
18. You cant ALT+TAB out of fullscreen
19. Low level mobs being able to fucking spam heal so that you cant fucking kill themThis no longer happens
20. Chat filters are currently EXTREMELY primitive. Specifically need to bring back HOLD instead of just show/hide and expand what you can/cant filter. These have been improved
21. Far too many mobs in this game follow the player making it difficult to use aoe abilities. It was cute in XI when lycopodiums did it, but it was only lycopodiums and it never inconvenienced the player. I havent seen this happen anymore
22. The sound effects for footsteps are louder than the BGM and cant be turned down.We now have three separate volume controls for BGM, system sounds, and sound effects (footsteps are still relatively too loud though).
23. Return of the vaguest error codes ever to have existed
24. Takes the server FIFTEEN MINUTES to figure out that you've crashed and to remove you from the server so you can actually log back in and continue playing SE's shitty ass gameI havent encountered this anymore
25. Accuracy in this game is a joke. Worse than FFXI pre-sushi and gear.Accuracy can be retarded at times, but is mostly okay
26. I can only keep 89 stacks of arrows on me, which will last me about an hour of grinding. Arrows stack up to 999 now, still kind of retarded but improved. I keep about 5 stacks of 999 on me to make sure I last one round of 8 guildleves
27. Mobs following you so you'll use an aoe ability and hit a mob behind you you didnt even know was there.
28. Mobs following you so you'll use an aoe ability and hit a mob behind you you didnt even know was there.
29. Mobs following you so you'll use an aoe ability and hit a mob behind you you didnt even know was there.
30. Mobs following you so you'll use an aoe ability and hit a mob behind you you didnt even know was there.
31. Every mob that spawns at night should just be removed from the game period.I'm not 100% sure but I think they actually did this, they at the very least removed a ton of the antling diggers etc but I havent seen any wolves in gridania for instance
32. [!!NEW!!]Stats other than VIT and MND STILL DO NOTHING. There is no way to increase damage via STR, acc via DEX, or the accompanying magic potency/acc from int and piety

I want someone to update this list for me

[Lucienne]

3. Updater still kinda sucks I guess.
4. Surplus was removed.
5. and 6. I know they changed some stuff about guildleves, but I haven't really done them much lately to really come up with any info.
11. Same here, don't play enough to have a decent perspective on it.
12. Still needs work, but is sure progressing.
14. Since they introduced other means of transportation, anima is less of an issue at least for me.
15. Can't really tell
16. There are ridiculously few spells atm, but it's subject to change. I doubt the result can be any worse than it was.

I'm not particularly helpful unfortunately. It's changed for the better and it's still progressing. I still have hopes they'll make it a decent enough game. I wouldn't say it's worth paying for in its current state though, especially with no decent payment methods available. Btw, that should definitely be on the list.

[Charismatic]

paypal w/ ultimatepay isn't too bad... not available in all areas though.

[#686578]

1. Updater, no further explanation needed
2. Surplus, no further explanation neededRemoved from game
3. Logout/Crash during guildleve = fail guildleve.
   
   1. Additionally wandering too far from the area cancels the guildleve without notification or indicators of exactly how far away is too far
4. Low level solo guildleves are far too difficult to complete under certain circumstances (such as putting the target mobs to kill past many high level sound aggro mobs in a narrow alley)
5. Frequent teleportation will deplete your anima effectively leaving you stranded or unable to travel the vast distances that the game has in any efficient amount of time.Finally striked due to anima/teleport changes + chocobos
6. What the fuck? Fuck that. Level 26 seriously? They cant be fucking serious. Poisona is a basic spell, as basic as cure. If Conjurer is to be our healing class that is fucking ridiculous.
   
   1. Apparently poisona and all status curing spells have been completely removed from the game.
7. Also need antidotes as consumables.
8. You cant ALT+TAB out of fullscreen
9. Return of the vaguest error codes ever to have existed
10. Stats other than VIT and MND STILL DO NOTHING. There is no way to increase damage via STR, acc via DEX, or the accompanying magic potency/acc from int and pietyStats finally do stuff!
11. Some of the payment options are retarded. IDK I've never payed for it yet.
12. Need mailboxes
13. I've heard buying from retainers is less retarded now, but we probably still prefer an auction house.
14. No one plays it is probably the worst thing about an MMO based on working together with other people

Cleaned up list with only changes/things that actually need to be fixed on it.

[Charismatic]

Poisona no longer exists as a spell at all so the Lv26 thing can be changed to WHERE IS POISONA.

In fact, if I am correct... there's currently no status curing spells whatsoever.

[#686578]

What the fuck? And no consumables? That is some huge fucking bullshit.

[Fievel]

What the fuck? And no consumables? That is some huge fucking bullshit.

They took em out for a short while. We're getting debuffs and debuff cures back next update aswell as getting an Alchemy/cooking revamp. So we should get stuff like antidotes aswell.

Edit: Er, at least I think we're getting the spells back next update, maybe its sooner/late, I just know they're coming back.

[#686578]

Why did they even take them out. Did they at least remove the poison abilities from mobs?