Reasons why XIV is absolutely terrible

[Lucienne]

You cannot kick ppl from LS unless they are in range. Not promote them either, but somehow I see the latter as a minor problem.

[Ksandra]

Targetting is exactly the same as FF11 except it's lacking F8. Reason 10. No F8

yes and no. You're right tabbing through people/mobs is exactly like ffxi, but you can't target players by scrolling through the party list like in FFXI. Which is retarded. Which is why I stopped leveling conjurer.

[Priran]

you also can't (as far as I know) tab through shit in the opposite direction like you can in FFXI by holding shift

[Ansems]

you guys are bitching about an unfinished product, cry moar faggots.

[Conrad]

I'm not playing, that means I can bitch about it as much as I want because I don't know any better

[Ksandra]

you also can't (as far as I know) tab through shit in the opposite direction like you can in FFXI by holding shift

they fixed that at some point. ^^ (I wasn't in closed, but I can do it in open).

[Ansems]

I'm not playing, that means I can bitch about it as much as I want because I don't know any better

White ppl...

[#686578]

yes and no. You're right tabbing through people/mobs is exactly like ffxi, but you can't target players by scrolling through the party list like in FFXI. Which is retarded. Which is why I stopped leveling conjurer.

So missing F8 and F1-6 and can assume missing the <xxt> commands for allies and shit?

[#686578]

you also can't (as far as I know) tab through shit in the opposite direction like you can in FFXI by holding shift

Yeah you can, or at least I can. If you cant that's still an issue though 'cause I clearly can.

[#686578]

you guys are bitching about an unfinished product, cry moar faggots.

lol it's finished. Less than two weeks before retail, they're more than likely not going to fix ONE of these much less all of them.

Honestly, they need to delay PC retail by at least 3 months to fix all the issues. I ideally want FPS, Input Lag(keyboard, fuck your mouse), Lag, Surplus, and the Updater fixed before would consider this ready for retail.

[#686578]

The product is 3 weeks from release. It should be finished and ready to play. This part of the beta testing should just be to see if they can handle the server load or not.

I would count release as technically the 22nd because we're getting the finished retail product

[Ksandra]

So missing F8 and F1-6 and can assume missing the <xxt> commands for allies and shit?

yap

<st> "works" in the sense that it's not <t>, but you still have to tab through enemies with it, and again can't cycle through the pt list with it. You can't imagine how many times people have died (not just with me as conjurer, but with a friend as well) because you have to tab through like three stupid dodos that decided to follow you.

[Thulius]

yes and no. You're right tabbing through people/mobs is exactly like ffxi, but you can't target players by scrolling through the party list like in FFXI. Which is retarded. Which is why I stopped leveling conjurer.

I'm pretty sure you can with a gamepad, it's just awful and inconsistent and rarely works when you're actually in combat. There doesn't seem to be a way to do it with the keyboard, though.

[#686578]

yap

<st> "works" in the sense that it's not <t>, but you still have to tab through enemies with it, and again can't cycle through the pt list with it. You can't imagine how many times people have died (not just with me as conjurer, but with a friend as well) because you have to tab through like three stupid dodos that decided to follow you.

I initially meant the <xxt> commands that are F1-6 equivalent for other parties, but damn they dont even have <stpc>?

[Ksandra]

I initially meant the <xxt> commands that are F1-6 equivalent for other parties, but damn they dont even have <stpc>?

ya the "yap" meant that the <xxt> don't exist. <stpc> doesn't exist either. At least this was when I made my macros for it about 1-2 days after open started. I haven't seen any updates for it. I should try them again.

[Ksandra]

I initially meant the <xxt> commands that are F1-6 equivalent for other parties, but damn they dont even have <stpc>?

ya the "yap" meant that the <xxt> don't exist. <stpc> doesn't exist either. At least this was when I made my macros for it about 1-2 days after open started. I haven't seen any updates for it. I should try them again.

[Ksandra]

Really the targeting issue is the big one for me that I feel they have to fix by retail. As much as lag is annoying, it's somewhat expected for release. Game mechanics really need to get fixed though. Also, provoke seems to be a big pile of fail as well.

[Lucienne]

Ksandra pretty much mentioned everything I hate about targeting.

When I was talking about controls, the only things accessible by pressing a hot key basically are the menu, the map and well the emote list. It would be nice to be able to access my inventory or gear in a less awkward way than tabbing through a menu. Equipping new gear is just horrible, especially since the mouse works so poorly. I really don't remember how this worked in xi anymore, but I'm very sure it wasn't this bad. I really suck at describing things.

[Ksandra]

Equipping new gear is just horrible, especially since the mouse works so poorly.

ya luckily today the lag on menus seems a little bit faster (or I'm just becoming more patient).

But I've done equipment macros for all of my jobs that I switch to because I can't stand doing it manually.

[Cantih]

FFXI is (for controller)

1. Square
2. Equipment (D-pad, X)
3. Slot (D-pad, X)
4. Equip (D-pad, X)
5. O twice to return to game