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  1. #661
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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    They are the best way to level crafting/gathering. Period.
    Well, the crafting ones aren't affected by DCing unless you DC in the middle of a craft and even then, you'll still probably be able to finish the leve.

    Gathering, whatever. I seriously doubt anyone will care about someone exploiting their way to to the level cap on Botanist.

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    It wasn't a question of exploiting, it was that he's confused about leves being "the absolute worst way to lv in this game." They aren't quests specifically built for gaining skill/exp. Bonus exp/skill is a bonus on top of doing quests with gil, guild mark, faction credits, and sometimes equipment/material rewards. I don't know why anyone would specifically use leves specifically to grind with outside of crafting/gathering which they are great for.

    P.S. I had massive, frustrating issues with disconnecting during leves during both Phase-3 and Open Beta... and I haven't had one problem since launch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    It wasn't a question of exploiting, it was that he's confused about leves being "the absolute worst way to lv in this game." They aren't quests specifically built for gaining skill/exp. Bonus exp/skill is a bonus on top of doing quests with gil, guild mark, faction credits, and sometimes equipment/material rewards. I don't know why anyone would specifically use leves specifically to grind with outside of crafting/gathering which they are great for.

    P.S. I had massive, frustrating issues with disconnecting during leves during both Phase-3 and Open Beta... and I haven't had one problem since launch.
    SE said multiple times that leve's are the ideal way to lv. Afterall, they are made for the casual person to lv. For battle leve's they are the worst way to lv. It could take somebody a week of doing lv 20 leves at 15 (all 8 each CD), and I'm not even confident they would have leveled w/in that week. When I can grind for an hr and get 12x the xp I can for an hr worth of leves, then please explain how they arent the worst way to lv in this game. Leve's are there for eqp / gil / guild marks. And since I feel the need to repeat myself since mioko likes to Defend SE to the bitter end.. I am only talking about battle leves

  4. #664
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    Did 3 leves today at rank 16(20 leves). Did two on 2 star, one on 1 star and got 2k total SP after it was all said and done. Waste of guardians favor.

    Edit: Just killed a nanny goat at 17 lancer. Conned VT. A lot longer fight than dodos. Total of 151 SP. Really?

    Double Edit: Just killed a 2nd one. 180 SP. Almost died. How bout some SP gain fixing soon.

  5. #665
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    Is it possible to hide your character profile on Lodestone?
    If not, they should add that option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    They are so scared that ppl will exploit leve's by allowing them to redo them if they dc, ect... But why not do what Aion does and give you a 5 min "safe period" to log back in? Furthermore, battle leve's have to be the absolute worst way to gain skill in this game. So allowing ppl to redo battle leves doesn't impact anything.

    Yesterday did an hr worth of leves and got 1k skill. Then went to grind w/a friend for an hr and got 12k+ skill. Leve's are only worthwhile for gil / marks / eqp
    What I don't understand about their point is how it can be abused if the allow us to resume a leve. If I have killed 5/6 mobs and DC I don't expect it to restart (thereby leading to the exploit); I expect to log back in and be 5/6 still, kill the last mob and be done with it.

  7. #667
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    DC during leves is my first one, so simple to fix yet we probably never see one implemented.

    When you have DC'd why does your character not log itself out, error code 3102 for like 15 minutes trying to log back in is retarded.

    I would... I would... I would li... I would like...

    Would be nice to be able to type to your ls while crafting too

    Some kind of Guild leve normallity, picking up one leve being able to do it on party difficulty solo because the mobs are a fucking joke, then failing the next at the exact same camp, and exact same level on solo just because of mob type is retarded

    My Friend hit Suplus yesterday after mine got reset, if you have to hit surplus before it resets thats going to be hilarious to the system that is supposed to help the slower more casual people level up lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSamuels View Post
    When you have DC'd why does your character not log itself out, error code 3102 for like 15 minutes trying to log back in is retarded.
    I have never once had an error trying to immediately log back in. In XI, upon disconnecting, your character would sit there, red-dotted, for a few minutes before you could get back in. When I d/c from something instantaneous like a crash in XIV, I can get back in right away without waiting for my character to time out. I'm not sure what your issue is, because I'm certain it's not waiting 15 minutes for your character to time out and get kicked.

  9. #669
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    The ability to reply to a tell with having told a tell yourself. At the moment when I get a tell I press CTRL + R as a reflex but it only repeats my last tell... (if this is possible please let me know how as I haven't been able to figure it out).

    In ffxi it was not that big a problem but with surnames getting names right can sometimes be frustrating. Players are not normally using easy recognisable names.

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    Besides the common "faster anima regeneration" I'd like it if we could teleport to the city from any of the main campsites in that region for 1 anima. Similar to how you can teleport to a camp from a node that surrounds it.

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    To add on this: even a "discount" on required anima if you travel from an aetherite to another would be fine, cut prices by 2 or even by 1/2. If I'm in the middle of nowhere in the Black Shroud and feel the urge to warp to Limsa Lominsa: it's fine, I have to pay a high anima cost, but if I'm at Ul'Dah aetherite and want to teleport to Gridania why can I "tap" anima from said crystal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    I have never once had an error trying to immediately log back in. In XI, upon disconnecting, your character would sit there, red-dotted, for a few minutes before you could get back in. When I d/c from something instantaneous like a crash in XIV, I can get back in right away without waiting for my character to time out. I'm not sure what your issue is, because I'm certain it's not waiting 15 minutes for your character to time out and get kicked.
    No, this is legit. Usually if there is a d/c or crash I can log back in nearly immediately but on occasion you have to wait an extended period of time. This is because your character is stuck logged in and is just standing there so the game treats it as it would someone else trying to log into the same account why you are playing and keeps you locked out. There is no red dot symbol, your character just goes inactive and the server doesn't pick up on it for at least 10 to 15 minutes. This is happening to many people.

  13. #673
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    It happens to me as well. The game will kick me right out, but won't kick my character right out, so I have to wait for the game to kick my character out before "I" can log back in. I've seen the physical result of LSmates who DC right next to me. Their character will stand still for a long while, then vanish for maybe 10 seconds before popping back in, when that person had actually DCed 2-3 minutes ago and was still trying to log back in the entire time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    I have never once had an error trying to immediately log back in. In XI, upon disconnecting, your character would sit there, red-dotted, for a few minutes before you could get back in. When I d/c from something instantaneous like a crash in XIV, I can get back in right away without waiting for my character to time out. I'm not sure what your issue is, because I'm certain it's not waiting 15 minutes for your character to time out and get kicked.
    just because it hasn't happened to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen to other people, and you're "dc situation" isn't the norm

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    double post

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    It's never happened to me, but happened to my friend every single time. Its about 10-12 minutes before he can get back in, and his character just sits there. It's gotten to the point where every time he dc's I just go afk for 15 minutes until he is able to get back in

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    Quote Originally Posted by arshesney View Post
    To add on this: even a "discount" on required anima if you travel from an aetherite to another would be fine, cut prices by 2 or even by 1/2. If I'm in the middle of nowhere in the Black Shroud and feel the urge to warp to Limsa Lominsa: it's fine, I have to pay a high anima cost, but if I'm at Ul'Dah aetherite and want to teleport to Gridania why can I "tap" anima from said crystal?
    This. So simple yet so brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon View Post
    This. So simple yet so brilliant.
    Yea, I like that idea too. It's taking the crystal-gate teleporting mechanic to the next level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    It happens to me as well. The game will kick me right out, but won't kick my character right out, so I have to wait for the game to kick my character out before "I" can log back in. I've seen the physical result of LSmates who DC right next to me. Their character will stand still for a long while, then vanish for maybe 10 seconds before popping back in, when that person had actually DCed 2-3 minutes ago and was still trying to log back in the entire time.
    I have had a similar issue except the game doesn't actually kick me out. I R0, but them I am stuck running around the game for about 15 minutes but unable to actually take any action. After 10-15 minutes it will finally throw me back out to the lobby and I can get back in right away.

    On a side note, I R0'd while under the effect of "Quick" and it lasted the entire time I was logged in. Looks like the effect is handled server side this time unlike Flee from FFXI which I believe was handled client side and was how all the flee-tools were created.

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