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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    I just hated Vaan's look. The caked crap around his lips, the terrible hairstyle, the absurdly stupid outfit.
    You could say this about almost any FF character. Tidus is just as guilty looking like a dumbass as Vaan is. But at least in Vaan's case he fit in with the world. Tidus just looked, acted and was retarded. Not to mention staring at his stupid run animation for hours made me sad.

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    Tidus didn't look sickly from the graphical style. Tidus also didn't show some 300-esque painted-on abs. Tidus was no saint of a character, but anyone could understand why he didn't fit into the world. Vaan may have fit into the "world", but he certainly didn't fit into the party.

    The "debate" is stupid. I disliked Vaan's character design, his role in the game, and his role in the world. I disliked Tidus far less than Vaan, despite his whiny voice and antics. At least he was a boss in the Blitzball arena, and has an excuse for having the potential that he does.

    I still have no idea how Vaan was able to throw those powerballs in his quickening. He's just some regular thief grunt; no hidden bloodline, no backstory, no nothing.

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    I don't really get why people cry about how whiny Tidus was anyways. It made him realistic. If any of you were thrown into his situation I doubt you'd be any braver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    I don't really get why people cry about how whiny Tidus was anyways. It made him realistic. If any of you were thrown into his situation I doubt you'd be any braver.
    We expect heroes to be heroic, who knew

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    America does, for sure. Japan, obviously, does not, at least, the main character. You had your "hero" with the Bushido character, Auron. Japan apparently likes main characters that elicit imagination and all that fairy fanciful stuff, while America's heroes are all gritty, muscled, white, and fire guns.

    I don't prefer one over the other, I just really, really disliked Vaan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempyst View Post
    We expect heroes to be heroic, who knew
    We saw him develop into one. God forbid our heroes aren't born that way. Have you seen Army of Darkness? Have you see what a pussy Ashley was in the first movie?

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    Tidus never developed into a hero in my version of FFX. I wish I had yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domon Kasshu View Post
    Tidus never developed into a hero in my version of FFX. I wish I had yours.
    He more or less wanted to save Jecht and Yuna. Felt like Yuna and co. had more of a "let's save Spira from this" attitude.

    Much more purpose than Vaan in XII. "Oh my brother knew the main character of the story and died in the war, now let me be relevant to the story and tag along."

    They just need to fix this by adding Basch to the game. Even for a side character, Vaan's a very poor choice as an addition to Dissidia. Balthier, Cid, or Ashe please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domon Kasshu View Post
    Tidus never developed into a hero in my version of FFX. I wish I had yours.
    He appeared into a world 1000 years from the future of his own against his wishes and not only did he stop the endless cycle of Sin, he did it without sacrificing anyone. He changed from a spoiled celebrity into someone who fought against the norm of this foreign world. He completely changed Spira and then faded away. Sorry not all heroes fit your personal image of one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhloston View Post
    They just need to fix this by adding Basch to the game. Even for a side character, Vaan's a very poor choice as an addition to Dissidia. Balthier, Cid, or Ashe please!
    They already have Gabranth in the first game. They could just give him an alt costume and just get 2 birds with 1 stone while still adding another FFXII Character that isn't Vaan. Balthier would have been a fun add, but fighting with or against him using guns would make him a little over powered I'd think. Ashe with a 2-handed broadsword or sword/shield combo would have been a good add.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaspinne View Post
    They already have Gabranth in the first game. They could just give him an alt costume and just get 2 birds with 1 stone while still adding another FFXII Character that isn't Vaan. Balthier would have been a fun add, but fighting with or against him using guns would make him a little over powered I'd think. Ashe with a 2-handed broadsword or sword/shield combo would have been a good add.
    Eh, I don't really think Balthier would be OP with a gun. Just make it like Firion's bow attack where it makes the character temporarily stationary and open for a counter, and give him a melee of sorts for close range.

    Though I do think Baltheir should have been announced for Dissidia since he was the most popular character in FF12, although SE said they were trying to avoid him due to all the cameos he made IIRC. But heck, I'd settle with Ashe or Bash even since they are more appropriate than Vaan. Only relation Vaan has with Gabranth is Gabranth kills Vaan's brother. At least I think that guy in the tutorial was Vaan's brother.

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    Fuckkkkkkkk There were some nice new scans/pics that were leaked? But it looks they were taken down .-.

    They were taken down as I was about to post them, lol

    Found them, give me a min to upload them, unless someone beats me to it

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    Really not a fan of the new Kefka look.

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    Whoa! Is that a modified Celes outfit on Terra?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indalecia View Post
    Whoa! Is that a modified Celes outfit on Terra?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    This looks like the artwork that Terra's new alt is based on

    http://i52.tinypic.com/sys17m.jpg
    Awesome either way
    Kefka's is... lol

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    This new Kefka look is also faithful to one of the Amano designs, definitely a big fan of how faithful they are being to these alternate outfits.

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    Are these pages also talking about their new moves? Would be nice to know D:

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    Full Translaion should be in Tomorrow or Weds, or at least HQ scans to make translating easier.

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    Oh yeah, another new stage in Duodecim is Floating Bahamut Fortress, which is in that scan I believe.

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