Dissidia Duodecim: Final Fantasy

**Fereydoon** · 2010-12-18 18:55

He was a summon in the first one.

**Alkar** · 2010-12-18 19:18

Originally Posted by Fereydoon

He was a summon in the first one.

Yes but apparently some people though he was going to be playable lol. This just means that we'll probably get another Cosmos rep from FFV.

**Meian** · 2010-12-18 19:26

Originally Posted by Alkar

I want to see that trailer lol. Even though Yuna is pretty much confirmed I still wanna see with my own eyes.
I wonder how they implemented her summons.
I've also read reports of Gilgamesh appearing as a summon in the new demo with an artwork from FFXII. I suppose that means he won't be playable.

There already is a Gilgamesh summon but not sure what artwork from 12 you're talking about if you mean there's another version (auto)

**solracht** · 2010-12-18 19:27

Tetsuya Nomura has stated that for a potential sequel, he would like to include Kain Highwind, Gilgamesh, and Sazh Katzroy, but would not include Kingdom Hearts characters. Nomura had previously expressed a desire to have Kain and Lightning in the first Dissidia, but they were left out.

That's why some people thought he'd be playable.

**Corrderio** · 2010-12-18 19:41

He still could be playable, maybe they'll explain in the end of 012 how he's a summon in the first game.

**Meian** · 2010-12-18 19:48

Originally Posted by Corrderio

He still could be playable, maybe they'll explain in the end of 012 how he's a summon in the first game.

Or trick us with Prishe and give us FF11 Gilgamesh instead D:

**Corrderio** · 2010-12-18 20:14

I want to /wrist at that thought...

Wonder if XI will make an optional fight where you can take on Gilgamesh for Genji Armor. That would be kick ass.

**Tobi** · 2010-12-19 02:37

Some new and old stuff, all of this from a couple reports from Jump Festa, might be a few translation errors. Copying what I saw:

+ A barefoot (woman: could it be Yuna?) in a blue hakama is shown. She's walking on water in a way that looks like an homage to a Sending.
+ Laguna and Squall's conversation.
Laguna: "You're still so closemouthed..."
Squall: "This is a battlefield! There's no room for idle chatter."
+ Bartz talking to WoL:
Bartz: "Why don't we give you a name we can all call you by?"
+ Lightning seems to have some thoughts on Firion's Wild Rose.
+ Jecht is on the Cosmos side
The Emperor invites Jecht over to the Chaos side with promises of Chaos' power.
+ Sephiroth seems to be searching for Tifa. At the Planet's Core the whole FF7 group gather together just as in the original game.
+ Vaan faces Terra. "Defeat me... I don't want to use this destructive power."
+ The Cosmos warriors are given power by Cosmos.
　It seems like using this power to fight, their friendship(?) will eventually manifest a crystal.
+ For Lightning, winning the battle and returning to her original world seems to be her highest priority.
+ Encounters:
vs Vaan
　 Cloud of Darkness: "Are you so unconcerned about your mission?" (Only a faint recollection of what she actually said)
Terra: "It's okay, let's fight."
Lightning: "Will you stop acting so grown-up?"
Kefka: "A kid who... can't read the situation?"
+ Cloud of Darkness as some new techniques in addition to Brave and HP attacks. Her HP attacks were carried out very fast and we couldn't see them well. 　　
+ Cecil rushes up to Kain and Golbez. It was a scene where there's an air of turbulence and unrest from Kain, who's lying on the floor.
+ (in the playable demos) the new characters didn't appear (though I didn't get much time to play)
+ Onion Knight is accosted by Vaan inside a train: "What's up? You don't look too good again."
They have an interesting way of sitting. They're up on the chairs with both feet [[possibly like Vaan's victory pose?]]

+ There wasn't much opportunity for demo play: I queued up before 7am and finally arrived at the Square-Enix booth at 9.
(It was originally supposed to open at 9, but since there were so many people there that's probably why they opened early)
I got a chance to play quite soon, but by the time it got to 10am the waiting time was approximately 120 minutes.
This time there weren't any tickets (for the order in which people could play) They said the waiting time was around 120 minutes but for KH:BBS next door the waiting time was announced to be 90 minutes but was actually more like 45.
+ The characters were Lightning, Kain, Tifa and Laguna.
All the new characters were playable. I picked Kain (with Cecil as an Assist) and there were three different difficulty-levels which could be chosen:
　'People with absolutely no experience of Dissidia', 'People with some experience', and one other (probably aimed towards 'Expert players')
There was one monitor beside the demos, but I think that was probably just showing what the players were doing.
+ My first fight was vs Cloud. "Can sins be forgiven?" (2nd costume) The stage was Chaos' Temple from FF1. For some reason there was a timer, too.　
　This time there were subtitles for the lines both before the fight and after winning. Before playing an explanation of the Assist Gauge popped up.
The gauge fills up when using an offensive move with O or □.
The Assist Gauge has three levels; with one level you can call on a Brave attack from an Assist Character with O
It seems as though when the gauge has two levels filled you can do an HP attack with your Assist Character.
+ The second fight was vs Zidane. "How long can you keep your cool?" (2ns costume)
The stage was a new castle (I've forgotten). I've forgotten Kain's line on winning...
+ The third stage was vs Golbez (I've forgotten his line) (I'm sure that was his third costume) The stage was the mobile fortress Bahamut from FF12.　　
I lost. Kain's line: "I thought I was going to win this..."　
Turns out Golbez' Assist Character was Onion Knight, but Onion Knight was moving at a really crazy pace.
+ Kain's HP attack Gungnir is very sudden, but the reach is shorter than I expected.
However, his Brave attacks are consecutive assaults like Squall's. The Ex Gauge and Assist Gauge both revert to 0 at the end of the battle. This might change in the finished product, maybe. 　
+ [[Some stuff about Jump Festa itself, including getting phone questionnaires and getting small goodies in return]]
+ The closed theatre lasted around 30 minutes, and 7~8 minutes were related to a new PV for Dissidia.　
That was quite satisfactory. In the morning you had to wait for about 30 minutes to see it.

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**Spira** · 2010-12-19 02:49

typical that your average non-online FF fan doesn't recognize Empyreal Paradox.

yuna!? excitement!

**Kiarax** · 2010-12-19 04:47

The changes to Firion sound pretty rad, hopefully being able to interchange his brave combo order means you can finish it without knocking the enemy back a mile. Still hoping for some new aerial moves for him though.

**Alkar** · 2010-12-19 08:10

Yuna is pretty much confirmed from multiple sources. You only see her feet and part of her dress but it's quite recognizable.
She has her Summoner dress, can't wait to see how they implemented her Aeons ^^

**Meian** · 2010-12-19 09:53

Would she really be considered shocking though, maybe she'll be mentioned before this supposed shocking character lol unless it's her style of fighting that'll be different different /shrug

**Alkar** · 2010-12-19 16:08

Yuna was the #1 requested character in Japan. I'd say her reveal wasn't unexpected but very well welcomed.
Anyway this:

A new map (It's like the World of Darkness from FF3, in which something that looks like a big crystal is floating)

is clearly Empyreal Paradox.

**Elcura** · 2010-12-19 16:11

Yuna wasn't annoying enough in X, let's see how much worse she is in Dissidia.

**Meian** · 2010-12-19 16:58

Originally Posted by Alkar

Yuna was the #1 requested character in Japan. I'd say her reveal wasn't unexpected but very well welcomed.

Thought it was Vaan?

I want to see some Empyreal Paradox action, maybe at their next reveal if it's a FFXI char

**Indalecia** · 2010-12-19 22:13

oh joy, yuna

/fingerswirl

**Souj** · 2010-12-20 01:01

Someone says the stage has a floating crystal and it's just assumed it's Empyreal Paradox? or am i missing something?

**Tobi** · 2010-12-20 01:14

Another possible new stage (FFXI) shown in PV: 天象の鎖 Empyreal Paradox

A lot of this info is taken from various sources/reports of people who actually attended Jump Festa. That guy probably just didn't know what the stage was since he probably have never played FFXI before, so that was best he could describe it.

**Tobi** · 2010-12-20 02:57

Tetsya Nomura shares a few additional comments on Dissidia Duodecim Final Fantasy in this week's Famitsu. Nomura tells the magazine that there are additional character announcements on the way, including character(s) from the Super NES Final Fantasy games. Also, it looks like the original's story will be included in Duodecim.

There will be some sort of surprise announcement at the January 18 1st Production Something-Or-Other event. I believe this is in reference to Duodecim.

Since FFIV got Kain, that only leaves FFV and VI, so either 5 or 6 will be getting a new character, or possibly both FFV and VI will be getting a new character.

**Kiarax** · 2010-12-20 05:55

That quote isn't worded very well. He specified there was more characters to announce from the SNES and beyond. Which means 1-3 are out the window for new characters.

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