Dissidia Duodecim: Final Fantasy

**Meian** · 2011-03-04 01:51

Man I died inside... they captured her perfectly
Feels like a scene from CoP

**Kiarax** · 2011-03-04 01:57

I got Prishe to 100 and she suddenly seems weak as fuck. Even using maxed out level 100 gear (her unique ultimate weapon included) she's doing rather pathetic damage outside of crits. Probably need to toy around with accessories and abilities and get a high crit rate build going or something but fuck moonrunes. Kinda disappointed so far, Tifa and Prishe were who I was most excited for and neither of them seem too great at max level now. Tifa can put out some decent damage but she has absolutely terrible HP attacks and her one BRV > HP chain is awful too. Might be viable for multiplayer at least thanks to feint, but against the AI who you can't really bait with mindgames it's a (mostly) worthless ability. Pleasantly surprised at Yuna though, she's pretty beastly and fun to play as, though I wish she got shafted in amount of moves.

**Charismatic** · 2011-03-04 02:01

Originally Posted by Kiarax

though I wish she got shafted in amount of moves.

Wish she didn't..? Or did you say what you meant?

**Kiarax** · 2011-03-04 03:02

Uh, yeah, wish she didn't get shafted. She literally only has 3 ground and 3 air braves. 2 ground HP and 3 aerial HP. Whereas other characters like Vaan have got a fucking ton of moves to choose from. A couple of those moves for her are absolutely worthless too. Even at level 1 when you don't have her best moves.

**Nevex** · 2011-03-04 05:19

Prishe seems pretty decent in this video, maybe she just performs better in closed stages.

Good quality D. Chaos gameplay for those interested:

**Tsutsumiko** · 2011-03-04 10:33

Originally Posted by Kiarax

I got Prishe to 100 and she suddenly seems weak as fuck. Even using maxed out level 100 gear (her unique ultimate weapon included) she's doing rather pathetic damage outside of crits. Probably need to toy around with accessories and abilities and get a high crit rate build going or something but fuck moonrunes. Kinda disappointed so far, Tifa and Prishe were who I was most excited for and neither of them seem too great at max level now. Tifa can put out some decent damage but she has absolutely terrible HP attacks and her one BRV > HP chain is awful too. Might be viable for multiplayer at least thanks to feint, but against the AI who you can't really bait with mindgames it's a (mostly) worthless ability. Pleasantly surprised at Yuna though, she's pretty beastly and fun to play as, though I wish she got shafted in amount of moves.

Ughh... really? Prishe, Tifa, and Lightning are the only characters I'm interested in period in Dissidia Duodecim. If Tifa and Prishe are not that hot, then I guess I'll bet it all on Lightning or go back to "lolCloud" who I heard got buffed like crazy. Just looking over the notes I saw, he seems frighteningly good now. Increased damage and a shit load faster? Yikes! The only thing that made him suck in the first one was how slow he was which makes him predictable and therefore easy to punish and kill.

Tifa and Prishe might just need specific builds like Cloud did in Dissidia 1 (read: Touch of Death style). When I get the US game I'll be putting work into Tifa and Prishe and see if I can figure out what's up. If she has at least one decent BRV=> HP link (whether it's DC'd or just a natural link ala Omni V. 5) she'll be viable.

Now all I need to do is figure out how to acquire a PS3 on the cheaps so I can play with all the BG heads.

**Meian** · 2011-03-04 11:36

Unique weps aren't always that great for everyone in the previous Dissidia. Things will vary like EXP --> BRV builds for certain chars or Ex Force gaining increase etc.

**Kiarax** · 2011-03-04 16:06

Originally Posted by Tsutsumiko

Ughh... really? Prishe, Tifa, and Lightning are the only characters I'm interested in period in Dissidia Duodecim. If Tifa and Prishe are not that hot, then I guess I'll bet it all on Lightning or go back to "lolCloud" who I heard got buffed like crazy. Just looking over the notes I saw, he seems frighteningly good now. Increased damage and a shit load faster? Yikes! The only thing that made him suck in the first one was how slow he was which makes him predictable and therefore easy to punish and kill.

Tifa and Prishe might just need specific builds like Cloud did in Dissidia 1 (read: Touch of Death style). When I get the US game I'll be putting work into Tifa and Prishe and see if I can figure out what's up. If she has at least one decent BRV=> HP link (whether it's DC'd or just a natural link ala Omni V. 5) she'll be viable.

Now all I need to do is figure out how to acquire a PS3 on the cheaps so I can play with all the BG heads.

They both definitely have potential. The only thing that seems to be limiting Tifa is lack of particularly good HP attacks like I said. It's just hard to connect them on the AI because they read feints pretty much 100% of the time. Against players it'll probably be a different story completely. You also have the option of using assists now, which can let you easily chain any move that wall/ground rushes in to a HP attack. As for Prishe I think it is just a case of getting her some decent equipment setup. Gonna dick about with accessories later and see if I can get her damage to a decent level. This game gets stupid though, when you start fighting level 100+ enemies in story mode you end up doing 0 damage to them, sometimes even with critical hits.

And yeah, Prishe's unique weapon isn't very good, the ability on it (the level 100 one) increases assist gauge rate by 30%. I think I'd much rather something like increased EX rate, especially with how slow it fills in this if you don't have custom rules set.

I've been trying to solo Desperado Chaos (level 95 version) with her but it doesn't seem to be possible without cheating it. He has an accessory that gives him a 90x modifier after 60 seconds, so at that point you instantly start doing 0. They designed him so that you're supposed to beat him by using 5 characters. So essentially you get 5 minutes of time where he's not Godlike, but that doesn't help in a solo attempt lol. I tried it by equipping the same x90 accessory (cheated in, obviously) and got him down to something like 25k but then his EX burst kicked my ass. Also sucks that I can't use any other modifier accessories if I use that, because the second the x90 one kicks in I start doing insane damage to him since they multiply it.

Edit: Wow looks like they nerfed accessories hard. Halfed the values on stuff (Hyper Ring is Damage+5% instead of 10%, Muscle Belt is Physical Damage +7% instead of 15%) and removed a bunch of the higher up ones. Hyper Ring seems to be the highest Damage+ one with no Gaia Ring in sight... Same with Muscle Belt and no Champion Belt. Reflect Chain is still here with 20% reflect (wasn't lowered), but I don't see the 40% version anymore. They also made all of the ones mentioned S rank so you can't equip multiple...

Double Edit: Okay some shit got boosted too, they removed High Booster (Crash BRV DMG + 20%) but increased the ability on Booster (+10%) to +40%. I guess with the overall crash damage reduction in this game that balances out a bit though.

**Meian** · 2011-03-04 17:31

Wonder if they nerfed Shantotto's one-hit-ko setup assuming the HP cap being higher now... I'd guess the weapons/accessories aren't in romanji

**Kiarax** · 2011-03-04 17:55

Yeah, it's all in moonrunes. Pretty easy to reference a Dissidia 1 accessory list for now, they seem to have added quite a lot of new multiplier accs though which I can't really decipher. Obvious ones aside (this enemy HP > 10000 is pretty handy for D.Chaos, lol). I just tried soloing again with Prishe and I can throw out some pretty nice damage now thanks to modifiers, but as soon as 60 seconds pass he gets his 90x mod and I'm back to doing 0, ugh. Might try increasing HP wall rush damage and just zerg down as much as possible before those 60 seconds are up, then resort to HP attack spamming. I can build BRV pretty damn fast on him now in the first minute. Gonna experiment a little more, need to go through Prishe's abilities and translate those too, ugh.

Edit: HP wallrush increasing sucks dick, still can't even get it close to the 50% extra damage of the original lol.

**Insanecyclone** · 2011-03-05 00:57

How do I unlock Prishe and D. Chaos? I beat the prequel storyline but their not in the pp store. Do I have to finish the first Dissidia story over again?

lol this fight

**Kiarax** · 2011-03-05 01:09

Go to Report (in story mode), go to the 8th report and you can hit Square to view events wherever there's blue text. There's two fights, one with Shantotto and one with Butz. The first unlocks Prishe (to buy) and the second unlocks Gilgamesh. For D.Chaos I think you have to beat 000 story (unlocks after you beat the 013 story, apparently you can also buy it from the PP store but I dunno). Managed to beat the first D.Chaos fight solo with Prishe. The one with 125k HP is gonna be a pain in the ass...

Basically need to get an insane accessory multiplier to be able to damage him after those 60 seconds. I'm not sure if the ones I used are attainable legitimately (I used a CWCheat to give all the equipment/accessories in the game, fuck grinding for items in moonrunes) or not, if not I'll be impressed if someone can stack enough to be able to do reasonable damage to him.

**Charismatic** · 2011-03-05 01:16

Where's you assist calls, sonny?

**Kiarax** · 2011-03-05 01:25

Saving meter to bust out of his HP attacks.

**Kiarax** · 2011-03-06 03:55

Well I think I broke the game. Final boss of the "post-game" story mode:

**Xajii** · 2011-03-06 04:17

Jesus christ, lol. That didn't take long. Would like to see how characters from the original fare in the fight, especially ones with moves like Cloud of Darkness and Zidane.

**Insanecyclone** · 2011-03-07 07:06

I'm liking these accessories

**Folant** · 2011-03-10 01:54

Anyone managed to get any translations of the Accomplishment list? Does your loaded save file from the first carry over? Or is it a completely new list?

**Insanecyclone** · 2011-03-10 11:17

English Prologus Demo comes out next Tuesday.

**Meian** · 2011-03-10 11:21

A week before NA full release lol oh well

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