Dissidia Duodecim: Final Fantasy

**Nevex** · 2010-09-15 14:22

Not so excited anymore. Looks like a copypasted Dissidia with Lightning and Kain so far and a new gimmick that replaces Chase mode. They better add some substantial stuff.

Edit: oh wait looks like Chase is still there.

**Corrderio** · 2010-09-15 17:10

Yeah, I was hoping they wouldn't reuse as many characters. Since I really want to see Zack over Cloud.

**Hyan** · 2010-09-15 17:13

Maybe they should wait 12 years then make the same game again with better visuals?

Works for some.

**-Zer0-** · 2010-09-15 17:24

Unfortunately, Cloud will never go away, ever.

**Corrderio** · 2010-09-15 17:29

I just took a better look at that and noticed they're doing a lot of copy/paste for characters. Hopefully some of them get improvements (I hated the "charge" on Tidius' HP attacks)

**Scritch** · 2010-09-15 19:57

I don't really see why you wouldn't want them to reuse old characters. Its Fighter-suicide to remove characters. Look at the whole Mewtwo/Lucario thing in Brawl. Shitstorm took years to die down, and Mewtwo sucked. Just keep adding new guys and everyone will be happy.

**Souj** · 2010-09-15 23:34

So you guys are complaining that they are using characters from the first game.
Was there some kind of announcement that told us the limit of how many characters would be in the game?
Or have you all forgotten about the little mathematical theory called addition? For all we know they could keep all the original fighters, then add more from other games. It's not a new concept, fighting games have been doing that for years.

unless of course they did announce the number of characters, then well, oops.

**Gokulo** · 2010-09-16 02:36

wut

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/09/15...loud-costumes/

**Kiarax** · 2010-09-16 03:22

http://www.finalfantasy.net/misc/15-...kyo-game-show/
Interesting bits:
08:37p: Tifa Lockhart is the third newest Dissidia Duodecim character being revealed at TGS. (11:10p: We’ve now had multiple sources confirm this, so we’re calling it true.) [Source]
10:51p: Cloud’s outfit changes slightly in event scenes, also the Assist System will allow the other character to take a finishing blow in place of the main character fighting.
01:31a: While the trailer for Dissidia Duodecim has yet to surface (and it was blocked on the Sony press conference) we have a translation available from Famitsu who was there to witness the trailer! “As with the previous game, the narrator describes a world where the two gods Cosmos and Chaos fight. There is a scene where the new fighter Lightning goes against the Warrior of Light, as well as a scene where Kain attacks Bartz, as well as other interesting scenes. A scene with Kuja talking to Zidane, and another with Cloud and Kuja having a conversation. Are they on different sides than they were in the first game? Or is it because they’ve lost their memories? Also, Cecil and the Onion Knight are talking on what looks like an airship, and Cloud wears a new costume. You can also see the Emperor and Golbez, as well as Kefka among other characters from the previous game. At the end you can see Tifa say to Sephiroth ‘Who are you?’”
01:53a: Kain gameplay video! Check it you below!
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/704580.html

**Charismatic** · 2010-09-16 08:07

Needless speculation but that victory sound there didn't sound like the Chaos one so it looks like he's in with the good guys

**Meian** · 2010-09-16 08:41

Does sound like Kain Cosmos victory but who knows. Golbez may have been with Chaos side but seemed to be more helpful toward Cosmos chars than anything. Kain was only "bad" because of Golbez/Zeromus influence and seeing as how Golbez in Dissidia was after he broke free from Zeromus's influence it would make sense Kain did too by then. Of course, he could be stuck in that "twilight" side like Golbez with guilt /shrug

Game looks more like an update than a complete remake. Addition of this assist and new chars seems mostly the same deal in regards to versus modes anyway. Seeing Tifa worries me about Prishe unless they'll throw in two hand-to-hand people. Much rather have Prishe than Tifa anyday >_>

Hope this game allows being able to switch between languages like that one Japanese version. However, I fear for them removing my ex cancel combos with Golbez ._. hopefully some balance things will be fixed too

**Mjd** · 2010-09-16 08:55

Originally Posted by Kiarax

http://www.finalfantasy.net/misc/15-...kyo-game-show/
Interesting bits:
08:37p: Tifa Lockhart is the third newest Dissidia Duodecim character being revealed at TGS

INB4 Relm is a new addition.

Nice information thank you

**Elcura** · 2010-09-16 09:01

Originally Posted by Meian

Does sound like Kain Cosmos victory but who knows. Golbez may have been with Chaos side but seemed to be more helpful toward Cosmos chars than anything. Kain was only "bad" because of Golbez/Zeromus influence and seeing as how Golbez in Dissidia was after he broke free from Zeromus's influence it would make sense Kain did too by then. Of course, he could be stuck in that "twilight" side like Golbez with guilt /shrug

Game looks more like an update than a complete remake. Addition of this assist and new chars seems mostly the same deal in regards to versus modes anyway. Seeing Tifa worries me about Prishe unless they'll throw in two hand-to-hand people. Much rather have Prishe than Tifa anyday >_>

Hope this game allows being able to switch between languages like that one Japanese version. However, I fear for them removing my ex cancel combos with Golbez ._. hopefully some balance things will be fixed too

I wouldn't worry too much about 2 fist fighters overlapping considering how many sword users there are.

**Corrderio** · 2010-09-16 21:03

More scans, Kain's EX mode seems to be his Holy Dragoon and it shows Lightning/Kain's possible alts:

http://i55.tinypic.com/5n5fdl.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/j5i34i.jpg

Originally Posted by Scritch

I don't really see why you wouldn't want them to reuse old characters. Its Fighter-suicide to remove characters. Look at the whole Mewtwo/Lucario thing in Brawl. Shitstorm took years to die down, and Mewtwo sucked. Just keep adding new guys and everyone will be happy.

Personal preference, there's a lot of people that could work and I like to mix things up so I'd like to see a lot of swap outs personally. For example, adding both Squall and Seifer seems like they'd play too similar to each other.

**Lucavi** · 2010-09-17 13:12

Less excited now that Kain's holy dragoon is canon, but I'll live. I loved Paladin Cecil, but does every character in a game need to be "redeemed"? Some people are just badass the first time around.

**Corrderio** · 2010-09-17 17:18

Well, not really surprising since SE takes elements from previous games and puts them in the game.

**Lucavi** · 2010-09-17 17:54

Meh, they took that from a -cell phone- game, but...

If they want to take something from a previous game, put in the hero from Mystic Quest, lolol.

**Corrderio** · 2010-09-17 23:42

That's actually not a bad idea, Benjamin could be quite an interesting character due to his weapons.

**Lucavi** · 2010-09-18 12:01

Aero was broken, so I wouldn't mind seeing him, although he was simply called "protagonist" in the JP version. I could see the dragon claw and mega grenades being pretty badass weapons.

**Rionel** · 2010-09-19 13:54

<<removed because of copyright problems/new policy>>

Trailer!

And they better put in Ramza somehow. =(

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