Dissidia Duodecim: Final Fantasy

**Mrbeansman** · 2011-03-26 19:41

God even doing Gabranth grinding was annoying as hell so glad I'm done with grinding exp

**Elcura** · 2011-03-26 19:51

Can't just do some magic pot trickery? Let Gabranth smack your ass silly then when he has 9999 brave use magic pot and copy it. Score a hit, instant level up, and you should be strong enough to take them.

**Kiarax** · 2011-03-26 19:53

It's retardedly easy to level up in this with custom rules. Shit you can even do a 5 on 1 party battle and everyone will get a fucking ton of EXP for you beating a level 100 person in 30 seconds.

**Treble** · 2011-03-26 20:43

Its easier just to adjust your brave and safer to EX Revenge-freeze him, plus if you break him and get an EX Burst off using this method, you get a nice fat EXP bonus as well (along with the 9999 initial hit, a break giving you 9999 stage brave for the EX burst as well). Plus, you only have magic pot for two fights, then you have to 'waste' a few to get it to recharge with that method. But the Magic Pot is a good 'safety net' if something goes wrong with this method.

Also, just found this if anyone's having trouble getting KP Bonus from showing up at the Cornelia moogle shop:

To get the Cornelia Moogle Shop to sell the KP Bonus, the following criteria must be met
1) It only sells it for the two days FOLLOWING your Special Day.
2) You must have at least 1500 KP stored. If your KP falls below 1500, the Cornelia Moogle Shop will STOP selling it.

The way I got to 1500 KP was by purchasing 4x Jump from the Moogle Shop near the beginning. The very first gate near the Cornelia teleport has enemies you can use the Jump ability over and complete the stage without a single fight, all for 49 KP per completion.

**Tsutsumiko** · 2011-03-27 11:44

Originally Posted by Corrderio

Finished up Kain's chapter, pretty awesome character. I'm at Tifa now and pray to god she plays nothing like Cloud since he felt slow as hell to me.

Didn't they speed up Cloud in this game drastically? I haven't really tried him yet at all since mine was level 100 with all the abilities maxed from the first game. Been investing all my time in Tifa and Lighting. I'm thinking of trying out Kain at some point too as his story mode made me just think of him as a WAY better Sephiroth and he's always been a pretty badass character in my eyes. The fact that Liam O'Brien does his dub voice is just icing on the cake. (Conversely some of Lightning's lines and even Tifa's are just horrid)

**Kiarax** · 2011-03-27 11:50

Originally Posted by Tsutsumiko

(Conversely some of Lightning's lines and even Tifa's are just horrid)

What on earth do you mean?

**Elcura** · 2011-03-27 11:59

When I heard people talking about it ages ago, I thought they were exaggerating. "It can't be THAT bad", I told myself. Holy shit was I wrong. Whoever told Lightning's VA to say it that way was on crack, because Lightning's voice is good in general.

Only thing I really hate about Tifa's voice is her victory line that ends in "Just Kidding!" Ugh, so cheesy.

Kain feels like a better version of Squall, awesome brave attacks but meh HP attacks. Jump ranges from awesome to horrible, but I'm still getting used to the attack.

So far, Vaan is the best. Absolutely love his attacks and playstyle. Though I haven't tried Prishe and Gilgamesh yet...

As for the old characters, who got better or worse? From what I've seen Kuja is still just as beastly as before, probably even better.

**Tyrath** · 2011-03-27 12:09

Originally Posted by Elcura

When I heard people talking about it ages ago, I thought they were exaggerating. "It can't be THAT bad", I told myself. Holy shit was I wrong. Whoever told Lightning's VA to say it that way was on crack, because Lightning's voice is good in general.

I just equipped it for the first time to check out what the fuss is all about.... What. the. fuck?

**Ifandbut** · 2011-03-27 12:34

Originally Posted by Treble

For Gabranth exp grinding:
http://dissidiaforums.com/showthread...et-Quick-Guide

How do you unlock "Free Battle" mode? Do you have to finish the 012 story first? I thought that guide meant Quick Battle(1-on-1) but I dont see the Edge of Madness map and I cant set the CPU level to 100 and the Judgment option just does not exist.

**Ponto** · 2011-03-27 12:48

Edge of Madness was a map unlocked in the initial Dissidia after defeating Chaos in story mode. I am assuming that you need to complete 013 to be capable of purchasing it from the PP catalog.

Also, anyone had issues with redeeming the bonus costumes for Tifa / Squall? I keep getting an error message for some reason.

**Souj** · 2011-03-27 12:59

I think the worst Victory phrase has to go to Yuna. "Maybe I learned something, too!"

**Scythiroth** · 2011-03-27 14:20

Originally Posted by Ifandbut

How do you unlock "Free Battle" mode? Do you have to finish the 012 story first? I thought that guide meant Quick Battle(1-on-1) but I dont see the Edge of Madness map and I cant set the CPU level to 100 and the Judgment option just does not exist.

I think to get CPU level +100 from the PP shop, you need to get someone to level 100 first.

**Scythiroth** · 2011-03-27 14:20

edit: double post.

**Tsutsumiko** · 2011-03-27 16:27

Originally Posted by Ponto

Edge of Madness was a map unlocked in the initial Dissidia after defeating Chaos in story mode. I am assuming that you need to complete 013 to be capable of purchasing it from the PP catalog.

Also, anyone had issues with redeeming the bonus costumes for Tifa / Squall? I keep getting an error message for some reason.

I did but then I realized that it was case sensitive. If that doesn't work, then I have no clue.

**Tyrath** · 2011-03-27 17:13

So I just dropped my psp and fucked up the screen lol <_<

No more dissidia for me till i get a component cable to play my psp on the tv.

**Treble** · 2011-03-27 19:03

Originally Posted by Elcura

So far, Vaan is the best. Absolutely love his attacks and playstyle. Though I haven't tried Prishe and Gilgamesh yet...

As for the old characters, who got better or worse? From what I've seen Kuja is still just as beastly as before, probably even better.

So far my favorites are Prishe, Vaan and Yuna for the newcomers. I just can't seem to use Kain or Tifa right, feels really awkward to try to hit with them, but they're probably just not my style. As for old characters.. Kuja got buffed with Force Symphony, I'm not sure how Zidane is faring though. I couldn't tell much difference with Squall. Golbez got better with Sector Ray. Bartz's attacks got switched around, he no longer has Flood or Wind Shear (instead having Ragnarok Blade, Hellfire and other attacks I don't remember exactly); not sure if its a nerf or a buff yet. Exdeath is much stronger now, and can cancel out of HP attacks into Blocks to mess with your head something fierce.

**Mrbeansman** · 2011-03-27 19:32

Originally Posted by Treble

So far my favorites are Prishe, Vaan and Yuna for the newcomers. I just can't seem to use Kain or Tifa right, feels really awkward to try to hit with them, but they're probably just not my style. As for old characters.. Kuja got buffed with Force Symphony, I'm not sure how Zidane is faring though. I couldn't tell much difference with Squall. Golbez got better with Sector Ray. Bartz's attacks got switched around, he no longer has Flood or Wind Shear (instead having Ragnarok Blade, Hellfire and other attacks I don't remember exactly); not sure if its a nerf or a buff yet. Exdeath is much stronger now, and can cancel out of HP attacks into Blocks to mess with your head something fierce.

Zidane's Infinite combos are all gone. Tempest pushes the opponent backwards and they recover faster.

**Meian** · 2011-03-27 19:38

Golbez didn't necessarily get better. Because you can no longer dodge cancel out of your attacks (including ex cancel) and continue to combo, it hurt Golbez A LOT as well as WoL (some others as well). Nightglow doesn't always 100% wall rush anymore either.

On the plus side, he did get some goodies:
Attack System can now be cast in the air (thank goodness), but both versions are nerfed in terms of tracking and being blocked will reflect
The new HP move, Sector Ray, is pretty good to use after an Assist combo
Gravity Force can't be blocked now but I think it can still be countered by characters like CoD etc.
Genesis Rock will always face the opponent when released

On the topic of improvements, I have tried Onion Knight's strength boost spell and I did not notice any changes in damage or crit rate...

**Souj** · 2011-03-27 21:30

Bartz losing Flood is a negative.At least in early game.
also Ex changes hurt him some as well since you can't Use it to get out of an opponent's combo and then immediately go into a Goblin Punch that can't be dodged because theyre staggered.

on a different topic; Tifa and Prishe's "limit break" are a huge pain to get a perfect on.

**Kiarax** · 2011-03-27 21:32

Prishe's is easy as hell. Follow clockwise from the first button press (which gives you plenty of time to get right).

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