DAT Mining Discussion (9/8/10)

**Xanthe** · 2010-09-09 08:44

All of my pages except for key items are now populated. Need to fix my key item parser, but off to a meeting for now.

**pnavaja** · 2010-09-09 08:47

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**Yekyaa** · 2010-09-09 09:04

Originally Posted by Julian

http://juliandev.com/september/outputarmor.txt

Thank you Yekyaa.

Would you mind sharing what you did? I'm thinking of updating my scripts for next time to just bypass POLUtils, so it should be easier for me to fix it myself without having to look at all that code.

I need to get ahold of swatgod/Hatori who has Committer status on POLUtils, it was a modification I did to POLUtils, simple text change and recompile.
I'm not releasing the updated version because I don't have committer rights iirc.
Plus, I use VS2010 and I think POLUtils was written with VS2003 (because I kept getting Cross-Threading errors.

**Sechs** · 2010-09-09 09:11

Yekyaa, thanks for your big contribution to the community.
I was wondering, is it possible that you accidentally missed some items from the data you parsed and put into that xml?
Because there seems to be a big selection of Job Specific neck and back equipment, yet not for all the jobs. I was wondering if the missing jobs are really missing, or if they just accidentally happened to remain out of the file for some reason.

**Yekyaa** · 2010-09-09 09:15

Originally Posted by Sechs

Yekyaa, thanks for your big contribution to the community.
I was wondering, is it possible that you accidentally missed some items from the data you parsed and put into that xml?
Because there seems to be a big selection of Job Specific neck and back equipment, yet not for all the jobs. I was wondering if the missing jobs are really missing, or if they just accidentally happened to remain out of the file for some reason.

That's the entire armor file parsed, so unless they're changing the Data format per Armor type within the armor file specifically, i doubt it, although obviously there's a lot of blank spots,
I didn't see anything showing strings for those blank items to indicate my numbers are off.
My guess is that just like the body and hands pieces, they aren't a part of this update... I could be wrong though.
Were the neck/back pieces in the previous version?

**Fereydoon** · 2010-09-09 09:17

Well visions had some necks/backs so maybe this is just the reverse item for each job? Like whm got a cape with visions they get a neck with scars?

**Yekyaa** · 2010-09-09 09:19

Originally Posted by fereydoon

Well visions had some necks/backs so maybe this is just the reverse item for each job? Like whm got a cape with visions they get a neck with scars?

My question is more to the DAT miners, are there pieces that were in the previous XML that are not in the current XML file?

EDIT: Eole, sent you a PM to gimme a link to old DAT xml file (pre-update) so I can compare and see if items are now missing (which means I mis-parsed specific stuff)

**Sechs** · 2010-09-09 09:30

Originally Posted by Yekyaa

Were the neck/back pieces in the previous version?

There were JobSpecific necks at least, and there was one for each job (unless I'm wrong?)
Don't think there were many JS back pieces.

**Kojack** · 2010-09-09 10:01

Does anyone know if there are any bcnm type battlefields for the kindred crests?
If so maybe the relic weaponskill weapons drop from those and follow the same latent effect rules as the ks30 weapons; needing weaponskill points to unlock the latent. Would love to see any information about these line of weapons.

**NervosaEternal** · 2010-09-09 10:12

Originally Posted by Kojack

Does anyone know if there are any bcnm type battlefields for the kindred crests?
If so maybe the relic weaponskill weapons drop from those and follow the same latent effect rules as the ks30 weapons; needing weaponskill points to unlock the latent. Would love to see any information about these line of weapons.

Would be nice if we could learn relic weaponskills outside spending the time and money for relics... I mean we can use Mythic WS without Mythics via Nyzul weapons.. Just saying, would be awesome.

**Kilik** · 2010-09-09 10:35

Are the seals needed to upgrade AF3 stackable?

**Mojo** · 2010-09-09 10:51

Seems like ninjas finally received a good weaponskill. Too bad you need the Abyssea relic weapon to access it.

**Crysten** · 2010-09-09 11:12

Originally Posted by Sechs

Yekyaa, thanks for your big contribution to the community.
I was wondering, is it possible that you accidentally missed some items from the data you parsed and put into that xml?
Because there seems to be a big selection of Job Specific neck and back equipment, yet not for all the jobs. I was wondering if the missing jobs are really missing, or if they just accidentally happened to remain out of the file for some reason.

A few jobs got AF ranged weapons or AF ammo, namely BLU and THF at least as far as I've seen.

That'd probably be why - if they didn't get capes or necks this update, they probably got ranged/ammo stuff.

**Aristio** · 2010-09-09 11:17

Originally Posted by NervosaEternal

Would be nice if we could learn relic weaponskills outside spending the time and money for relics... I mean we can use Mythic WS without Mythics via Nyzul weapons.. Just saying, would be awesome.

All the relic weapon skills can be used outside the relic weapon. New weapons with "Latent Effect: [Relic WS]" haven't been found yet. My guess is they are only usable when you have the weapon mainhanded.

**Julian** · 2010-09-09 11:31

Originally Posted by Yekyaa

My question is more to the DAT miners, are there pieces that were in the previous XML that are not in the current XML file?

EDIT: Eole, sent you a PM to gimme a link to old DAT xml file (pre-update) so I can compare and see if items are now missing (which means I mis-parsed specific stuff)

My script runs a check vs the old xml and outputs any new or changed armors. Changes from june can be found at http://juliandev.com/juneupdate/ (ignore the pictures, that's just me owning the otherwiki idiots)

**Loan** · 2010-09-09 11:34

Originally Posted by Kojack

Does anyone know if there are any bcnm type battlefields for the kindred crests?
If so maybe the relic weaponskill weapons drop from those and follow the same latent effect rules as the ks30 weapons; needing weaponskill points to unlock the latent. Would love to see any information about these line of weapons.

Definitely need to figure out what these lead to.. Could be epic or epically lame..

**Xanthe** · 2010-09-09 11:43

Originally Posted by Julian

My script runs a check vs the old xml and outputs any new or changed armors. Changes from june can be found at http://juliandev.com/juneupdate/ (ignore the pictures, that's just me owning the otherwiki idiots)

My diff-check is all internal to the database. I keep a modify date and compare the current value with new values. If the item already exists it updates it, otherwise a new item is added.

**Julian** · 2010-09-09 11:47

My script isn't fancy, I just wrote it like 2 hours before june's update cause I thought it would be fun, and pretty easy to do.

**Lucavi** · 2010-09-09 12:16

Jesus fuck. I always knew you could do it, SE. Deep down, I always knew you could get past 2004 gear!

I'm 85% done with gugnir... depending on a few factors, I may just be suiting up again. Seems like the golden age of dragoons with this absurd gear.

Does anyone have any visual .dats of the AF? I must see how close to Kain dragoons look now.

**Gokulo** · 2010-09-09 12:19

You can check them out on the Scars website.

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