Abyssea - Attohwa Discussion

[Kidnoftle]

On the subject of ulhudashi, is aeolian void ele based? That was the only move that sucked about the fight and I was wondering if I could get the dmg down on it.

[Holyman]

You've been spewing garbage all over the forums, you should stop it.

6 people killing in 5 minutes with weakness~
5 + 3(repop) = 8, ~3.5 seals / 6 = .58 per person per 8 minutes = .07/minute/person

3 people killing in 3 minutes w/o weakness~
3 + 3(repop) = 6, ~1.5 seals / 3 = .5 per person per 6 minutes = .08/minute/person

Who cares if you get duds, it's all about averages. Spam more, get more drops.. and that's assuming you only take 5 minutes to proc weakness each time and can still kill in 5 minutes with that retarded setup. I'd think most would add at least a melee to it for killspeed.

Your math is so dumb is irrelavant to the degree I overlook your posts , because whatever nonsense & bullshit you keep on pulling here , braging about shit that's not everyone have access to , is not the case for everyone .

Personally I have no dual/trio box mules or the luxury of having online bitches that I rule to get virtual items . Sorry not me .

You can be asshole to anyone here , & I see how people enjoy it , praise you etc , but with me you better shut it up , wanna debate or argue , do it w/ respect or gtfo .

Back to thread, How do you assume there will be weakness ? if I'm having 6 non-retarded people who know what to do ? how is that different than regular manaburn set ? Hell how is that different than RDM/NIN x2 that you keep mentioning on killspeed ?

[Fievel]

Oh boy, I sure hope you're more respectful to him next time Thorny.

[chazzyphizzle]

YOU BETTER SHUT IT UP

[Aurara]

Damn this guy is MAD

[Francisco]

Holyman is going to call the wrath of God down upon all of you bitch-mule dictating non-believers.

[Raen Ryong]

I hate to ruin the fun, but wiki pages mentions Smok (Tiamat) rages gradually from pop, meaning slower kills are going to ... well, get burned down.

Can I please have some verification on this? Relevant to my interests since I normally have 4 people maximum.

[Aurara]

Thorny posted a pic of him getting ga'd for like 4k lol

[Snick]

Holyman is neo incoming.

[fredjanx]

Holyman is neo incoming.

One would say so. The "May" join date bugs me, though.

[Kidnoftle]

Neo was retarded but at least he was coherent.

[Snick]

I was kidding anyways~

[Thorny]

I hate to ruin the fun, but wiki pages mentions Smok (Tiamat) rages gradually from pop, meaning slower kills are going to ... well, get burned down.

Can I please have some verification on this? Relevant to my interests since I normally have 4 people maximum.

I'd compare it to Ovni, but in damage. First time I tried was RDM RDM BRD SAM.. by about the 40 minute mark it was one shotting me with full merit abyssites, hp atma, shell5, and a pretty damn nice mdt set(4k+ -gas, 1200 melee, 200 blaze spikes, etc). It's certainly doable with 4 though, but you need to keep fight length in mind. RDM RDM BRD DD can win, but if your dd gets killed early on you're fucked regardless of whether the RDMs hold it. I'd advise DD DD BRD WHM instead. It's not the least bit difficult to tank, just going to have deaths spiraling as it gets stronger due to firaga4, flarega, and instacast fire5.. slows down your killspeed and makes it that much worse, it's a fine line.

Your math is so dumb is irrelavant to the degree I overlook your posts , because whatever nonsense & bullshit you keep on pulling here , braging about shit that's not everyone have access to , is not the case for everyone .

Personally I have no dual/trio box mules or the luxury of having online bitches that I rule to get virtual items . Sorry not me .

You can be asshole to anyone here , & I see how people enjoy it , praise you etc , but with me you better shut it up , wanna debate or argue , do it w/ respect or gtfo .

I'll be more respectful if you'll be smarter, ok?

Back to thread, How do you assume there will be weakness ? if I'm having 6 non-retarded people who know what to do ? how is that different than regular manaburn set ? Hell how is that different than RDM/NIN x2 that you keep mentioning on killspeed ?

It's not. However, it's three times as many people splitting about twice as many seals.. which is less efficient. There's nothing inherently wrong with either of the methods, however, this was first brought up by a complete idiot stating that it's pointless to kill without grellow.. this is far from the case, it's almost always less efficient.

[Raen Ryong]

Okay, thanks a lot. Final question - does it have a visual indication like Ovni's 2hr that it is becoming stronger or does it just sort of happen?

[Kidnoftle]

Just happens

[Plow]

yea but out of:

BLM RDM SCH BRD BLU WHM

only the rdm and blu can stay alive on half of the t1s, so you can't exactly go balls to the wall

rdm rdm is faster than melee mage in a lot of cases, i agree

Mana wall is absolutely the shit, especially with convert, restore chests around and whatnot. It's rather amazing how many of the mobs you really can just go balls to the wall and burn down with a few mages spread out. Only real issues come with stuff like vunk pugil and varney that'll fuck you up before they even get to you.

I'm definitely not disagreeing that it's not worth time spent proccing !! unless it happens to proc conveniently for ya, but it's pretty impressive what mages can do these days in general.

[Kegsay]

Okay, thanks a lot. Final question - does it have a visual indication like Ovni's 2hr that it is becoming stronger or does it just sort of happen?

It just happens; the things which appear to be heavily/noticeably boosted are spells (Fire V, Firaga IV, etc) and Tebbad Wing. Realistically you don't want to be around for more than 10~15 minutes before you're in shit.

[pnavaja]

is there any low man strat for Amun??
can anyone pls post strat? thx

[Vincento]

is there any low man strat for Amun??
can anyone pls post strat? thx

Rdm/nin x2 bounce hate w/ tier 4's, move out of range of ga's.

[Eldelphia]

Anyone taken out Yaanei and if so, any strategy you'd recommend?