Abyssea - Vunkerl Discussion

[Aurara]

thx..
btw aurara where is your sig pic from?

Honestly idk, i did a search for waterpolo and it came up =D

[Seraphise]

Durinn doesn't absorb at all. Physical dmg tears it apart. We've been using 2 mnks to tank T2 NMs and had to change to 1 mnk for this fight because it was dying too fast while we were trying to trigger !!s.

It uses Thunderous Shriek and T4 -gas, both of which can do pretty high dmg if you have magic def down on. They wont one-shot tanks with cruour buffs and shell though so its not that dangerous.

This isn't our first rodeo so we have plenty of atmas, just wanted to make sure I could bring a balanced group for !! triggers and still be ok. How about Bukhis? We're planning on taking ixion bukhis and dvallin

[Kilik]

We tanked Bukhis with 2x MNK or MNK+SAM also. This fight is annoying because of the cruor buff dispel. Once he knocks off a tanks buffs, he can 1shot them with a quick -ga spell followed by a triclip or scythe. We were originally having BLMs stun Blizzaga4, Apocalyptic Ray and Ruinous Scythe, but it seemed like only Triclip was dispelling the crour buffs. Once we switched to stunning Triclip+Ray+Ga4 instead of Scythe, it seemed to go smoother. If you have a lot of holy waters and/or cursna, you can probably just let Ray go off and use stuns on the other 2 TP moves. Bukhis has a lot more HP than Durinn so you don't have to hold back dmg while trying to trigger !!s.

[zagex]

We tanked Bukhis with 2x MNK or MNK+SAM also. This fight is annoying because of the cruor buff dispel. Once he knocks off a tanks buffs, he can 1shot them with a quick -ga spell followed by a triclip or scythe. We were originally having BLMs stun Blizzaga4, Apocalyptic Ray and Ruinous Scythe, but it seemed like only Triclip was dispelling the crour buffs. Once we switched to stunning Triclip+Ray+Ga4 instead of Scythe, it seemed to go smoother. If you have a lot of holy waters and/or cursna, you can probably just let Ray go off and use stuns on the other 2 TP moves. Bukhis has a lot more HP than Durinn so you don't have to hold back dmg while trying to trigger !!s.

We had our DDs homepoint and come back if/when they died, saves time on unweakening and running around getting new cruor buffs. They of course all need to have their HP in port jeuno.

[Curzori]

nvm.

[Phraust]

Any info on Chhir Batti?
Wiki is bare, Google comes up with nothing, and search here turns up the dat mining thread for the pop item, vunk thread that mentions the pop item, and wizbot user list...(A post that had neither Chhir nor Batti mentioned in it... lolsearch...)

[ValeforMage]

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[Karbuncle]

I want to strongly caution parties farming chhir batti. First off this NM is a total joke, the only even remotely dangerous tp move is dark wave which whm can easily handle for pt. We have even killed with blu tanking it /nin and once even killed with only whm and pld in zone. Here is the bad news...this nm drops no seals often like VERY often the only drop you will receive is temp items... We killed him just now and out of 7 pops 4 times the NM dropped NOTHING at all only gave pt one temp item. This even happened to us 3 pops the day before back to back. This had nothing to do with using magic or !! Triggers and none happened and we changed up things after panicking on 3 back to back no drop. So, while this NM is a very easy farm be prepared to kill many times and get nothing. Probably better to farm another nm unless you have tons of time/stones

I had the complete opposite experience, had TH4 in the party, and never saw a single "no drop", we got one that only dropped his Grip(?), but each other gave us at least 1 seal, got 2 seals quite a few as well.

Are you bringing TH4? or do you just forget THF in abyssea?

[ValeforMage]

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[Thorny]

All of the triggered NMs have the same exact droprate.

Stop whining and go home.

[ValeforMage]

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[Laika]

Can you post the link where you got this information on pop nm drop rates being all the same please? Would love to see the SE official post on this since pop NMs all always droped at least one seal for our LS up until this on NM and we are abyssea only LS so have popped 90% with this being only NM to drop not one seal up to 3 times in a row with TH 4 in pt. Thanks in advance for link to official post

Your personal experience with one nm doesn't indicate a particularly low drop rate for that specific nm. I've seen plenty of seal nms drop nothing when yellow isn't hit multiple times in a row. Suggesting that others should have to point to an "official post" in order to prove something that is fairly logical to assume is sort of silly when you're contending a lower than normal drop rate based off a few pops and then giving dubious advice by telling people to avoid it.

In my experience, it does not have less of a chance to drop seals than normal.

[Diane]

We tanked Bukhis with 2x MNK or MNK+SAM also. This fight is annoying because of the cruor buff dispel. Once he knocks off a tanks buffs, he can 1shot them with a quick -ga spell followed by a triclip or scythe. We were originally having BLMs stun Blizzaga4, Apocalyptic Ray and Ruinous Scythe, but it seemed like only Triclip was dispelling the crour buffs. Once we switched to stunning Triclip+Ray+Ga4 instead of Scythe, it seemed to go smoother. If you have a lot of holy waters and/or cursna, you can probably just let Ray go off and use stuns on the other 2 TP moves. Bukhis has a lot more HP than Durinn so you don't have to hold back dmg while trying to trigger !!s.

How many members minimum do people with experience with Bukhis think are needed for a successful lowman?

[Terrestrialrage]

Any info on Chhir Batti?

A massive joke. Sam/War + Whm never dropped below yellow. He casts random -aga's like Silencega + Paralyga + Slowga and seems to TP randomly. Sometimes he wouldnt TP at all until 25%, other times he would start at 80%, and everything inbetween. That being said, he has 2 TP moves, Dark Wave (AOE Bio), and some TP whose name i cant remember that deals a little damage and gives it a potent Bio aura. He hits like a bitch though, -33% PDT on Sam he was hitting me for no more than 180 per swing. Susceptible to Paralyze + Slow. Brought in a Blm for grellow after the first kill, which is made even easier by the fact that he resists magic hard, with -aga 3's doing no more than 2% of his HP. Seemed to favor Sam more than anything, giving us 8 feet seals in no more than 9 kills, with grellow proc on 6 of those. Definitely the best option for Sam feet.

[Francisco]

Any lowman experiences with the Sea Monk?

[Zerk]

Any info on Kadraeth the Hatespawn? could it be taken down w/ a party setup of ~6 people? or even less maybe?

[Manf]

Any info on Kadraeth the Hatespawn? could it be taken down w/ a party setup of ~6 people? or even less maybe?

He is really easy. We've done it as WAR NIN RDM WHM BRD, and it was quite overkill. You could easily drop the RDM, or WHM, and use only one melee and probably be in no real danger. We've also done it as 3x RDM, but RDM is pretty much invincible.

[Spira]

attempted to solo Hrosshvalur today for SMN seals... knew nothing about the NM and probably didn't optimize gear/sub, but did manage to bring it down to 14 and 20% on my 2 attempts in like 20minutes each, so its definitely doable with the correct setup.

Not that easy a solo, considering you're always put at some degree of risk if you get Waterja cast on you. My problem would be if I got hit by Waterja either when i wasn't at full HP or if he attacked me 1 more time after that, and his attack range is 30' and unblinkable, so its kinda hard to avoid..
I think I'd have no problems surviving if I bothered to go get a couple more Abyssite of Merit for HP boosts... switched to /RDM for fast cast and used refresh - swapping 1 of my Atma for something more defensive.

MP was never really an issue. You can always use temp items to get MP back up.. also I was using Ramuh and he tanks Waterja like its nothing. My BPs would take off 6-8% of the mobs HP in a go, so its considerably squishy and the number of times you need to BP is reduced, meaning to say you don't need that much MP.

strat is to pull it all the way to the Pulse Martello area and BP kite it.

will try again soon for better results

[Laika]

Any lowman experiences with the Sea Monk?

carol 1 2, barwater

[Dooom]

Any lowman experiences with the Sea Monk?

sam, thf, two dual-boxed whms with one refresh atma each, just cure bomb as needed. It died fast.