Limit Break 7 - The Crest Hunt

[g0dsgreen]

The quest in itself wasn't so bad.

What made it awful was the obvious rush and panic of people going for them.

^This

After knowing what the drop rate seemed to be like initially, I went up to sky on BLM and soloed dolls. Wasn't that crowded, at the most I saw 15 ppl in front of main Shrine entrance (looking for despot as well) so nothing unusual as far as crowdedness. Went into this with no real expectation to get quick drops, got my last crest yesterday and working for my 4th merit now so I can get back to abyssea pt's.

[urat]

<sarcasm>
Hey guys you know what would be awesome? What if the moment we logged in SE just let us have everything done immediately with 0 work involved! I bet it would be awesome if I could just log in after the update and boom! Level 85 right there, fuck having to actually unafk from sitting in WG and actually go and do something to earn my level cap, no fuck that I should get it right now. Despite the fact the content we've been given is supposed to last a few months.

Wait? What? I need to actually do some work? BAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW FUCK THIS GAME FUCK SE FOR FUCKING MAKING ME DO SOMETHING, FUCK THIS SHIT OMFG RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGEE

JESUS CHRIST I GOTTA FARM 5 FUCKING ITEMS THAT DROP OFF OF EP MONSTERS?!!?!?!?!?!? JESUS FUCKING TITFUCK CHRIST NO WAY THATS THE MOST FUCKING HARD THING I'VE HEARD OF IN MY LIFE!!!!!

Jesus christ SE what the fuck were you thinking?!!?!?!? Making the item for a quest available to thousands of players?!?! JEsus you'd think they'd have learned from ACP that the far more effective system to impliment would be to make an item drop off a handful of monsters so the entire fuckton server camps them like HNMs!

Jesus christ, but making the items avialble in every 70+ zone on every 70+ monster?! HOLY SHIT I GOTTA GO FARM?! Oh god my life is so horrible, I'm being expected to spend time accomplishing something ON AN MMORPG?!?!?! BULLSHIT!

And it's totally moronic to even contemplate the idea of doing a secondary quest at the same time to accomplish two things at once! That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of! Magian Trials? Who the hell does those anymore?! I can't seem to think at all of any kind of Magian Trial that expects me to kill a few hundred monsters that are in an abundance of 70+, nope. Can't think of any at all. None.

Well instead of potentially equipping a magian weapon and getting 1-2 tiers done while doing G7, or getting a tactics pearl and leveling my NPC, or farming some materials off 70+ mobs that are worth decent money, or farming materials for a craft off 70+ monsters to level the craft for free, or killing level 70+ placeholders for some NM that drops an item worth gil or that could be slightly usefull for me, or starting an abyssea burn and getting the crests with some friends, or skillup some skill I don't have quite capped (parrying, shield, guard, etc) I'm just going to go ahead and farm the 5 crests and that's it.

God forbid I try and kill 2 or 3 birds with one stone and multitask or something, I'm gonna go ahead and farm crests and kill hundreds of monsters and then come on BG and whine about how SE doesn't just hand me everything I want on a silver platter. FUCK YOU SE, FUCK YOU FOR GIVING US AF3 THAT FUCKING ROCKS, FUCK YOU FOR MANAGING TO MAKE AN EXP SYSTEM THAT SOMEHOW MANAGED TO GO ON PAR WITH ABYSSEA EXP, FUCK YOU FOR GIVING US MORE CONTENT THAN ALL 3 MINI EXPANSIONS COMBINED FOR 10$, FUCK YOU FOR MAKING US WORK FOR THINGS!!!11!!

tl;dr BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

</sarcasm>

On a related topic, I just finished a magian trial I wanted to work on and ended up getting 2/5 of my kindred's crests. Easy.

[Priran]

It doesn't matter whether it's easy or hard, what matters is that it's an unimaginative, luck-based, time-consuming pain in the ass for no reason. I honestly don't think people would mind these quests requiring time and effort if it was something cool, but it isn't. It's fucking filler. If they're just going to half-ass it, what is the point of padding its length by making the crests' droprate so shitty?

[urat]

It doesn't matter whether it's easy or hard, what matters is that it's an unimaginative, luck-based, time-consuming pain in the ass for no reason. I honestly don't think people would mind these quests requiring time and effort if it was something cool, but it isn't. It's fucking filler. If they're just going to half-ass it, what is the point of padding its length by making the crests' droprate so shitty?

Welcome to ffxi?

[orson]

I think the stick is so far up Urat's ass it's actually hitting brain. That's the only thing I can think of to explain someone missing the point so badly.

[Mojo]

He's right about this. Way too many people are bitching about something that's actually pretty easy and not that time consuming. It may be a bit uncreative, but it's a fucking level cap quest.

[urat]

You people keep complaining about how boring and repetitive and time consuming SEs quests are, "they're just filler" "luck based" etc etc

No one is making you play the game. If you hate it so much just fucking quit already, the rest of us that get the fact that MMORPGs boiled down are all just a series of repetitive luck and sometimes nonluck based tasks realize this shit is the same as the rest. I know exactly what happened. The crew working on ffxi had to spend all their time making abyssea and AF3 and keeping the tonnes of magian trials up to date and texture all the new gear, etc etc, took the simple quest of G7 and had to quickly stick something into it.

Now they could just make it some epic long quest of npc chat, thrilling dialog and notorious monsters or whatever, but they knew as a community we would just see it as a minor setback from our zerg to level 85. 99% of us would skip all the cutscenes, zoom through the text, whatever whatever whatever just give me level 85 already.

So why should they put a bunch of effort into a quest they know we're going to zoom through in our haste to get level 85 when they could simply make it a farm item quest and put that effort into a quest, like any of the abyssea ones, that we would actually pay a bit of attention to?

Sure they could up the drop rate on kindred crests to make it a nice little breeze for everyone, except any moron can already tell the crests will be used for other things soon, in fact there's a bit of a use already. So later on should we have kindred crests dropping left right and sideways for what will undoubtedly be referred to as KCNMs just because some QQers couldn't stand the idea of not getting their precious level cap raised moments after the update?

And I'm the one with a stick up my ass...

[orson]

@Mojo, how can you be right about something completely subjective?

Obviously there's a shit load of people who thought this quest was ass there's no denying it. At this point it's beating a dead horse but are you guys are just as bad for bitching about people bitching. It's call hypocrisy don't sit on your high horse like you're some how more in the "right."

[Snick]

No one is making you play the game.

I love when people say this.

You know, it is possible to like something, but one aspect of it pisses you off.

Nobody gives a shit about the Limit break quest. People give a shit about the limit break itself. There's no reason to not want to raise your cap moments after the update. You're a fucking idiot.

[Priran]

Now they could just make it some epic long quest of npc chat, thrilling dialog and notorious monsters or whatever, but they knew as a community we would just see it as a minor setback from our zerg to level 85. 99% of us would skip all the cutscenes, zoom through the text, whatever whatever whatever just give me level 85 already.

So why should they put a bunch of effort into a quest they know we're going to zoom through in our haste to get level 85 when they could simply make it a farm item quest and put that effort into a quest, like any of the abyssea ones, that we would actually pay a bit of attention to?

If they're just going to phone it in, why bother making these quests at all? The limit break quests are a milestone for your character, and on top of that, you're practically forced to do them, so they should put more effort into these quests than some random crap quest in Abyssea which, as we all know, is positively fucking brimming with wonderful background and storylines. The bottom line is that the limit break quests are memorable. I would imagine most players remember getting their G1 items, running around Xarcabard for G2, etc. The only thing people will remember about this quest is that it sucked and they were miserable.

Sure they could up the drop rate on kindred crests to make it a nice little breeze for everyone, except any moron can already tell the crests will be used for other things soon, in fact there's a bit of a use already. So later on should we have kindred crests dropping left right and sideways for what will undoubtedly be referred to as KCNMs just because some QQers couldn't stand the idea of not getting their precious level cap raised moments after the update?

Can any moron also realize they didn't have to tie the quest to these items? Can any moron realize that they could have added the crests last patch and sidestepped a majority of the dissatisfaction with this quest? Because I'd appreciate it if any moron would start showing some sign of logical thought in their next post.

[TransparentMind]

Oh geez, do we really have an asshole in here who is defending this half-assed excuse of a quest? Can't believe nobody has posted the GTFO gif yet.

These are limit break quests. Unlocking the limits of your character's potential should involve something more than jerking off while you farm DC mobs for 44+ hours, or sitting in an alliance and collecting your share for 10+ hours... while jerking off.

These quests should obviously have something to do with skill and pushing the limits of your character. Remember the Maat fight? It wasn't so easy your first time around, was it? I knew some people who could never overcome it and just leveled a lolmaatfight job so they could move on. What challenge is there to this ass-hat quest? A test of patience... oh fuck yeah, that is the only challenge. It doesn't even matter which job you clear this on, it just matters how much time you have to fart around waiting for your 5 so you can continue on your merry little grind.

Yes its the end of FFXI's fucking life, the least SE could do is not ham it up until the very fucking end with more fetch quests and forced squandering of exp into a fucking black hole of a moogle. Sorry for wanting something slightly more enriched. Hell, sorry for wanting something slightly mediocre at this point, just so I could forget about it without any positive or negative feelings. I'm going to remember this quest, i'm going to be talking about whenever any kind of fucking bullshit 1% drop rate fetch quest comes out of SE's unimaginitive ass, Just like I talk about the fucking old papyrus while doing this quest.

The rest of us can only hope SE gets some backlash for this, since the JP are obviously pretty pissed about it all as well. I don't want to see another fucking fetch quest from now till the servers are taken offline. Peace.

Oh and congratulations, fucktard. MMO's are timesinks. Expect nothing but the bland, and cherish anything given to us that is engaging.

Please put your head on a subway track.

[Tagus]

I think the stick is so far up Urat's ass it's actually hitting brain. That's the only thing I can think of to explain someone missing the point so badly.

Phineas Gage with a keyboard? I came in here to see if anybody commented on the ninja edit on droprates, which I'm going to assume was a decision based on the fact that this quest was ACTUALLY AS FUCKING TERRIBLE AS PEOPLE THOUGHT so they decided to fix it, and saw this quote. And laughed.

[Heian]

The drop rate was increased extremely. Just did an abyssea party and one was dropping about every three to four mobs on average. Had a THF pulling and it was only TH2.

[Salmijr]

And here I was hoping they would have lowered the droprate. The QQing over something so silly was just soooo entertaining.

[Tagus]

There's still some potential? Maybe Mojo or Urat will come in and call everybody names again. I mean... their worst fears have been realized! The QQ'ers have won. Although, chances are that we all have 85 jobs by now, so the change is more salt in the wounds than anything else at this point.

[urat]

The QQers always win, you whine and moan and bitch about how tough this game is and how hard it is, and SE puts it on easy mode for you.

AhemCoPAhem (twice) etc etc, whatever, less work for me. I don't care if it's tough or hard, as Mojo said.

It's just a fucking level cap quest, go moan about something else from this upda- oh wait.

I honestly can't think of anything that sucked this update, anyone else? Yeah that's right, SE is actually doing an awesome job for once and what do you guys do? You still find something to whine about and call SE retards. The same people who just handed you exp on a silver golden gilt platter of awesome, with AF3 of pure 1337 that can actually be soloed and DOESN'T require an alliance of 18 people to work for 5 hours to get, SE did everything right this update and you people just can't handle the fact that SE didn't fuck up so you're nitpicking.

And believe it or not, SE still has the patience to give the snot nosed brats their cookie and pat them on the head, even after giving them everything else already.

I'll thank SE on everyone's behalf. Thank you Square Enix for putting out what could be one of your best updates since meripos. Keep up the good work, and don't mind the people who whine so much, they just haven't gotten used to the fact yet that you guys are doing a genuinely good job.

[ronin sparthos]

Lucky for everyone, Walk of Echoes is still not on easymode.

[Rocl]

did you just fucking say the crest drop rate adjustment was the same as the COP adjustment?

[urat]

Im 90% sure WoE is working as intended, however its built around a besieged concept of group runs of 36 people publicly

I honestly don't have a clue why servers just aren't doing WoE, its got awesome armor drops, exp rewards, no exp loss on death, etc etc

My guess? The system takes tonnes of wins for a specific room to open next, as we are guessing. The few servers that opened conflux 5 probably just had enough LSes doing #2 to unlock 5, but then it sizzled out and one ls trying to solo open any others is just too hard.

If we just as a server got off our asses and actually did WoE I'm fairly certain the other confluxes would open, so its not WoE that's broken, its us being way to fucking lazy to give it an honest attempt, at least the vast majority of us excluding the select few lses that actually do it and try.

I've done it, its easy, its fun, no loss, plenty to gain, just what is wrong with WoE?

[urat]

did you just fucking say the crest drop rate adjustment was the same as the COP adjustment?

SE: Well, here's this really awesome series of updates for you guys, we worked really hard on it. Lot's of stuff to do, things to see, monsters to kill, etc. Hope you guys enjoy it :D
Us: Ok cool *tries it out*
SE: So?
Us: It's too hard
SE: Pardon?
Us: INSERT QUEST/BOSS/WHATEVER HERE, it's too hard.
SE: Could you be more specific?
Us: Well we can't just strongarm our way through it, it actually requires effort and concentration. I can't finish it in one shot with a little bit of effort. You actually made something that's difficult. We don't like that, we like being able to just throw a ragtag group of strangers together and walk into it unprepared and complete it without any effort and little trouble.
SE: But this game is entirely founded on teamwork and effort...
Us: Yeah but we don't like that
SE: So you want us to make it easier?
Us: Yeah lots easier? See this boss? I wanna kill it without trying...
SE: I spent 2 days programming that bosses AI, he's supposed to be tricky, see? But he has a weakness! Just use that and it shouldn't take much effort :D
Us: Yeah... no. We need to farm items for his weakness, that takes time. Time I could spend camping HNMs, I wanna kill it without trying.
SE: Ok fine, we'll make it easier.
Us: And this quest? Yeah fuck the iitem takes like an hour to farm, thats bullshit.
SE: What?
Us The item, it doesnt drop fast enough.
SE: That's the point, you're supposed to work as a team and farm the item, whats the point of the quest if you can just finish it without trying...
Us: Just fucking fix it.
SE: Ok fine we fixed the drop rate, now what?
Us: Well you see theres this...

And so on. SE gives us content with minor bumps in it that pose challenges, and you guys BAAWWWWW about the challenge until SE turns the challenge into more easymode stuff.

Got it yet?