Final Magian/Empyreon Armor.

[Darkmagi]

You must be related to Urat. Fucking really?

[vagus]

Thanks, Very much, I'll add to OP =0!

Found a mistake, V Isle should be AF3 Feet. I'm stilling missing the head quest for (BLM, NIN, COR, DRG) from Attohwa Chasm.

[seiji]

You mean back when it was the only competitive 2H DD?

and every dual wielder was outdamaging em

[TummieGaruda]

To build fame up quickly in Attohwan from rank 1, I would suggest doing Crimson Carpet I instead of Ward Warden. All you need to do is infuse the trap and the trap is located very close to the Conflux making for a quick run. It can only be done once per game day, but still a lot faster than Ward Warden.

[Krz]

does anyone know what the "Enhances Hasso effect" on Unkai Haidate +1 does?
doesnt give Str as far as i can tell, and giving just hastse would be pointless cause they would have just put 5% haste on the gear instead. Can't figure it out.

P.S. sorry if someone already posted this in this or a different thread

Edit: or the head with seigan, idk how that is effected either D:

[Aurara]

5/8 seals for lolaf3+1 legs for cor! too bad they're fucking terrible lol

[Hookah]

Check it, then think about what you first said (what the effect on the gear pieces does). Then think about what you just posted. The duration of Hasso is longer, that's about it.

Why nothing else we know as of yet? Cause if you tested with capped everything haste (as stated above) and your saying after using Hasso one of you attacked faster, the enhancement either breaks the Haste cap (unlikely) or something is wrong.

Also, curious, how did you record your findings? Counted or parsed? Which program? I'm almost sure there's a mistake in there nothing else.

wat

I never said anything about the duration, all I did was call into question those test results because the tester didn't seem to know that hasso gives JA haste, and it tested it against un equal haste values in the first place. Also deeming that it gave gear haste is pretty fucking stupid, especially considering the test where they concluded that was done with 2 people who already were at capped gear haste. Duration was never even part of the conversation.

Read much?

I don't necessarily see your info as contradictory to the earlier poster who said he had 5% hasso (or whose math worked out to be 5%), as his were +2 legs, and you're using +1. WAR legs jump from 6% haste and 3% DA to 7% and 5%, respectively, going from +1 to +2; that's a fairly big jump. Tantra Hose +1 --> +2 gives a 1% haste, +2 kick attacks, and +6 STP, another noticable boost. SAM +1 --> +2 gives +3 STR, +3 Dex, and +2 STP... if the enhances Hasso property doesn't get significantly stronger, then SAM got hosed. And as SE's love child, we all know SAM doesn't get hosed.

So, +1% haste on +1 legs, +5% haste on +2 legs seems to more-or-less fit the pattern the leg pieces, and I think a lot of folks are looking for flaws in your post because they really, really wanted +5% haste on the their hasso pants.

I think a lot of folks are looking at flaws in the post because the tests were flawed from the start.

[Deader2818]

5/8 seals for lolaf3+1 legs for cor! too bad they're fucking terrible lol

Seems like a good Ranged TP piece to me.

[Aurara]

Skadi are better tbh, i mean they're nice, but not better than skadi.
Edit: This is all off opinion btw.

[Marootsoobutsu]

wat

I never said anything about the duration, all I did was call into question those test results because the tester didn't seem to know that hasso gives JA haste, and it tested it against un equal haste values in the first place. Also deeming that it gave gear haste is pretty fucking stupid, especially considering the test where they concluded that was done with 2 people who already were at capped gear haste. Duration was never even part of the conversation.

Read much?



I think a lot of folks are looking at flaws in the post because the tests were flawed from the start.

Unequal values of haste, above 26% gear haste, are equal values of haste.

He never said Hasso is gear haste; he said it appears the bonus from "Enhances Hasso" is gear haste, since when haste values were equal, the 1% boost from "Enhances Hasso" wasn't kicking in.

His test seemed pretty solid to me: two people, one with 5% haste legs using Hasso, and the other with 4% legs, using Hasso, had the same number of swings over 10 minutes. When they were using Hasso with capped gear haste, the Enhances Hasso legs didn't pull ahead, which indicates that, while Hasso is JA haste, the Enhanced effect is gear haste. What about that is difficult to understand?

Also, for Kalasin, the duration of Hasso doesn't change with them; I watched it quite happily wear off at 5 minutes on the dot on mine. The person who had said "45 seconds longer" also noted they had talked to an NPC, which extended the duration, and apologized for the misinformation. I appreciate your enthusiasm for jumping to conclusions, but please, keep reading testing and information. You'll look less stupid later on.

None of this is hard to comprehend. All of this is readily presented in this thread. Stop being lazy or, if you are not lazy and are actually stupid, stop clogging up testing.

[pooter01]

Yeah... he tested first 4%+hasso vs 5%+hasso and both came out equal. then just 4% vs 5% with 5% being ahead. then capped+hasso vs capped +hasso(enhanced) and came out tied again showing that the extra 1% was counting as gear haste.

Read much?

[EjinCaitsith]

2/3 \o/
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[Hookah]

He never said Hasso is gear haste; he said it appears the bonus from "Enhances Hasso" is gear haste, since when haste values were equal, the 1% boost from "Enhances Hasso" wasn't kicking in.

His test seemed pretty solid to me: two people, one with 5% haste legs using Hasso, and the other with 4% legs, using Hasso, had the same number of swings over 10 minutes. When they were using Hasso with capped gear haste, the Enhances Hasso legs didn't pull ahead, which indicates that, while Hasso is JA haste, the Enhanced effect is gear haste. What about that is difficult to understand?

Yeah... he tested first 4%+hasso vs 5%+hasso and both came out equal. then just 4% vs 5% with 5% being ahead. then capped+hasso vs capped +hasso(enhanced) and came out tied again showing that the extra 1% was counting as gear haste.

So a 10 min sample size by someone who doesn't even know how to test something properly and comes up with the conlcusion that the "enhances hasso effect" from a JA that gives JA haste gives 1% haste in gear constitutes a "solid test"?

And I'm the stupid one?

Those results are "inconclusive" at best, and that's being kind.

[Foldypaws]

So, to move on to other legs, I don't know if this has been posted. DRG +1 legs give ~+5% critical damage boost (Based on /ra testing, crits went from consistant 63 to consistant 66)

I could not figure out what "Enhances Soul Jump" effect does, it does *not* make it shed enmity like high jump. Doesn't seem to boost damage either, other than the 5% crit increase (since soul and spirits are auto-crits)

Doesn't increase TP bonus, or let you get the auto-crit or TP bonus when the wyvern isn't out.

So, I'm out of ideas.

[Aurara]

2/3 \o/
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...918_021318.png

Grats, thats a sexy head piece :#

[pooter01]

So a 10 min sample size by someone who doesn't even know how to test something properly and comes up with the conlcusion that the "enhances hasso effect" from a JA that gives JA haste gives 1% haste in gear constitutes a "solid test"?

And I'm the stupid one?

Those results are "inconclusive" at best, and that's being kind.

First, I don't feel the tests were conclusive either, and would like to see more testing. But where do you get the idea that he doesn't know how to test beyond that he used a short sample size? he controlled all of the variables, while testing various conditions independently.

You continually ragged on him for using differing amounts of haste, when he was testing two pieces of gear that have differing amounts of haste. He could have tested using feet that gave 3/2% to even the gear haste up, but the results would have been the same.

You also ragged on him for having capped gear haste in the final test. that was entirely his point. by capping gear haste, if a test resulted in no gain between the two pieces it showed that the "bonus" haste wasn't having an effect, and the only way that could occur was if it was counted as gear haste.

but really, 10 mins should be enough for an event that isn't random, as long as you get 100 swings in. for the same reason 10 swings is enough to tell the difference between different delays. TP gained is not a random event, and 10 swings will always give the same result under the same conditions. 100 swings of a 450 delay with 15% haste will always take the same amount of time. My real wish was that he posted the logs for the second and third test to show there wasn't an error such as hasso dropping right as they swung, or one person using hasso more often(JA delay).

[Hookah]

First, I don't feel the tests were conclusive either, and would like to see more testing. But where do you get the idea that he doesn't know how to test beyond that he used a short sample size? he controlled all of the variables, while testing various conditions independently.

You continually ragged on him for using differing amounts of haste, when he was testing two pieces of gear that have differing amounts of haste. He could have tested using feet that gave 3/2% to even the gear haste up, but the results would have been the same.

You also ragged on him for having capped gear haste in the final test. that was entirely his point. by capping gear haste, if a test resulted in no gain between the two pieces it showed that the "bonus" haste wasn't having an effect, and the only way that could occur was if it was counted as gear haste.

but really, 10 mins should be enough for an event that isn't random, as long as you get 100 swings in. for the same reason 10 swings is enough to tell the difference between different delays. TP gained is not a random event, and 10 swings will always give the same result under the same conditions. 100 swings of a 450 delay with 15% haste will always take the same amount of time. My real wish was that he posted the logs for the second and third test to show there wasn't an error such as hasso dropping right as they swung, or one person using hasso more often(JA delay).

If anything those tests support the notion that the enhancment doesn't augment haste. 1% haste isn't something you can eyeball, and trying to judge the results based against someone else to doesn't start with the same haste value is asinine, in fact testing haste like that vs anyone else really is pretty dumb. Differences in who engaged first, someone might have lagged on reapplying hasso, etc. I don't trust that there wasn't some kind of human error there, those results are pretty worthless.

And to even suggest that the enhancment would magically cause a JA to give gear haste is retarded. SE has done some boneheaded things in the past, but that wouldn't even make sense. I was skeptical about the process in the first place, but once I saw that all credibility was lost.

[Celebrindor]

still no info on questable blm seals for any piece?

[SteveMc]

2/3 \o/
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...918_021318.png

My God you're a bastard lol, very sexy indeed.
What are the +2 drop rates like?

[orson]

still no info on questable blm seals for any piece?

Read back someone just posted all the quests for all jobs and the fame levels. Seriously just read the threads and you'll have 90% of your questions answered at the very least you'll have as much info as everyone else.