Final Magian/Empyreon Armor.

[FailureMidgard]

It can be any spell, any tier as far as I know. We've definitely seen t3s, t4s, dispel, drain, banishga2, bio2.

[lolwut]

Once had Flash proc grellow on the corse each use. It can be pretty much anything.

[Dooom]

Has anyone seen a song trigger a !!? Granted I'm incredibly tired right now so maybe missing something obvious, but I can't think of any time someone has posted that a song triggered a !!, yet my friends ask brds to cycle through requiems and such when fighting NMs "just in case".

[Anomander]

It can be any spell, any tier as far as I know. We've definitely seen t3s, t4s, dispel, drain, banishga2, bio2.

To build on this, has anyone seen it proc on a new spell? Given that the ws weaknesses never use nyzul or newer ws's, my group has been assuming that it works similarly for spells.

[FailureMidgard]

Has anyone seen a song trigger a !!? Granted I'm incredibly tired right now so maybe missing something obvious, but I can't think of any time someone has posted that a song triggered a !!, yet my friends ask brds to cycle through requiems and such when fighting NMs "just in case".

Personally I haven't yet, but I do the same if there's a bard there...we do a lot of stuff with 2-3 rdms, and there's a lot of times that we try every single spell and still get no !!s, implying it's something not available to red mages. It'd take a pretty large sample of bards actually rotating through all their offensive spells (and maybe needing to land them? Yay requiem) to conclusively say they can't. I bet a lot of people out there are in a similar situation where they don't try bard stuff, though I could be wrong.

[SargentRemora]

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Just finished these, the Avatar: TP bonus is hardly noticeable, less then 1 TP per hit

[Darkmagi]

You do realize TP bonus means a TP bonus on BPs? (More damage)

[Michelob]

It can be any spell, any tier as far as I know. We've definitely seen t3s, t4s, dispel, drain, banishga2, bio2.

We saw it on a Magic Finale, too.

[SargentRemora]

It seems you're right, did testing on magical pacts since physical pacts are not affected by TP. All with 0 TP, only change in gear are the legs (Caller's+1 vs. Marduk). Testing done on Lesser Colibri outside whitegate, no weather, lightningsday (so no bonus)

Lunar Bay:
Marduk: 900
Caller's +1: 903

Heavenly Strike (0 TP merits):
Marduk: 799
Caller's +1: 864

On Attercops:
Wind Blade (5/5 merits):
Marduk: 1440
Caller's +1: 1513

[Juxtaposition]

Any details on how "Increases enhancing magic effect duration" is? It's on RDM Feet and RDM Back.

[Kirschy]

Any details on how "Increases enhancing magic effect duration" is? It's on RDM Feet and RDM Back.

From what I hear it's +10%. Haste being a 180 second duration would gain an extra 18 seconds with one of those pieces equipped~

[Byrthnoth]

I haven't been reading this thread much, so I apologize if this has already been reported, but Charis Tiara +1 gives +1 forced crit to Climactic Flourish. So normally if you use Climactic Flourish with 2 finishing moves, the first swing of your next two attack round would force crit if they connected. With the head on, the next 3 attack rounds would start with a force crit. I did not do a control test, so if my explanation of how Climactic Flourish normally works is wrong then my analysis here may be wrong.

There also may be some kind of ~10% damage boost associated with those crits when it is on, but I'll check that later. Again, no control test and I was out in Batallia so less than ideal testing conditions.

[Bling]

Nynja pointed out a basic pattern of how NMs are dropping 4 different job seals earlier in this thread, but it's starting to look to me like there's a bit more of a pattern. Sorry if this is in another thread and this is old news.

Looking at Spira's very awesome maps, it looks like jobs are dropping together across the zones. 15 "sets", 1 NM each zone, 1 being timed and 2 forced. Each job appearing on 3 sets and dropping from 1 timed and 2 forced per zone. Using this pattern and filling in the missing info on Spira's maps:



Green shaded ones are timed spawns. I have no idea if this is how it is or not, I guessed at some of them like Xan who has no drops listed. I guessed on some of the mob types too. Might be useful to find people to team up with to farm seals or something if it does prove accurate.

[arshesney]

To build on this, has anyone seen it proc on a new spell? Given that the ws weaknesses never use nyzul or newer ws's, my group has been assuming that it works similarly for spells.

I would not exclude any ws from being the trigger for a !! (relics might, since aren't really anything you learn). There isn't any proof that can support either theory, but if any spell/song/blue/ninjutsu can trigger (merited spells and ancient magic included, I had a ruminator !! at slow 2) I hardly see SE making a similiar process any easier. Besides only 3 ws from nyzul are elemetal iirc (Leaden Salute, Trueflight and Primal Rend).

[diasetsu]

Finished up Tantra Gaiters +1 last night. Enhances footwork seems to boost the attack bonus to 132/1024, also from the limited damage testing I did they are +40 dmg. I'm not sure if they are a true 40 or if they also boost the +18 from footwork, but I was too lazy to get a decent sample size from regular kicks at 4am. Not a huge priority for me to finish the +2s atm seeing as how I have spharai, so hopefully someone will before I get around to it.

[Cream Soda]

I thought Temple Gaiters enhanced dodge, not footwork.

[GImpers]

Has anyone seen a song trigger a !!? Granted I'm incredibly tired right now so maybe missing something obvious, but I can't think of any time someone has posted that a song triggered a !!, yet my friends ask brds to cycle through requiems and such when fighting NMs "just in case".

My group triggered !! with Water Threnody once.

[diasetsu]

I thought Temple Gaiters enhanced dodge, not footwork.

Hmm they do infact enhance dodge, gotta love thought process with 3 hours of sleep.

[Gabai]

My group triggered !! with Water Threnody once.

Bit late to this but I've triggered !! with threnodies as well.

[Evane]

Bit late to this but I've triggered !! with threnodies as well.

Does it have to land to trigger the "!!" ?