Final Magian/Empyreon Armor.

[Zirk]

Should try reporting the Unkai haidate as like a bug and hopefully they change it to being JA haste, making the extra haste magic haste does seem completely random and could be a mistake.

[Cream Soda]

So, Unkai Haidate +2 is -not- gear haste as people originally expected. It's also not JA haste...it's magic haste.

Insanely easy for anyone to test, so I'm not gonna post a bunch of numbers, but it's definitely magic haste (Unkai Haidate+2 + SV Marchx2 + Haste gave expected recast on reraise with Hasso for capped magic haste + 40/1024 gear haste). Furthermore, before that I did a test that confirmed it wasn't gear haste anyway (it broke the 25% cap), then decided to go further to test if it was magic haste or not.

Just to say things that some people may realize is common sense - means these get less attractive if there's a haste2 or march3 or during a zerg, but I guess it's nice for "normal" shit, especially if we get a little more haste with the next update.

May not be as good for zerg but if you use ace's shoes or fuma, dusk gloves+1, af3+2 hat, bullwhip, unkai, you have 24% gear haste, and 2% magic haste, so nets you an extra % haste for non zerg situations.

[Tribe]

Is Sam af+3 Zanshin proc rate? acc? or boost in tp when it procs?

[FailureMidgard]

Should try reporting the Unkai haidate as like a bug and hopefully they change it to being JA haste, making the extra haste magic haste does seem completely random and could be a mistake.

Maybe I'm just being pessimistic, but seems unlike SE to change something random like that...

May not be as good for zerg but if you use ace's shoes or fuma, dusk gloves+1, af3+2 hat, bullwhip, unkai, you have 24% gear haste, and 2% magic haste, so nets you an extra % haste for non zerg situations.

Ya, for now it isn't too bad, but if they add a march3/haste2 (which, based on things added so far, seems likely), then it's going to be a total waste always. Really wish it were JA haste on a JA :/

Is Sam af+3 Zanshin proc rate? acc? or boost in tp when it procs?

No idea and haven't gotten around to testing...it's not really high on my list of things to do. No idea what SE's hardon for Zanshin for Sam is (AF3 back + AF3+2 set bonus). Maybe some day I'll get around to testing it, I have all 3 +2 pieces as of last night, but meh.

[ejiboo]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...7_211028-1.jpg

wow!

[Yugl]

At least he chose the right type of weapon.

[Aurara]

Oh wow, thing looks hot go vit mods!
Edit: wrong thread lol..

[Xanthe]

Oh wow, thing looks hot go vit mods!
Edit: wrong thread lol..

A VIT mod is a heck of a lot easier to gear than an AGI mod.

[Kaslo]

So I have checked this thread pretty regularly but haven't seen any info on MNK boots. Has anyone tested the kick attacks damage on them compared to Poise/Dune?

[diasetsu]

I don't think I ever posted the +2s here, but Gaiters +1 are +40dmg with a 132/1024 attack boost from footwork, and Gaiters +2 are +45dmg with an 152/1024 attack boost. If anyone has any idea what the set bonus might be, let me know. As of now I can't see anything new augmented with kicks.

[Thorny]

+45 DMG. Still can't find anything noticable about the augments bonus on set.. maybe critical hitrate or procrate, but that's probably observation bias because kicks have such shiny damage now ;(

[Obsidian]

Do Tantra Gaiters +1/2 make OAT worthwhile over standard punching again? Or does H2H still win out?

[Kaslo]

Didn't just Dune Boots + OAThrice make Footwork win over punching? Sorry don't know the math.

[diasetsu]

I might be bias since I have spharai, but since the comparisons between footowork with ursine, and regular H2H involved a horrid abyssea Weapon skill like asuran, I would imagine H2H to always win.

[Dooom]

Didn't just Dune Boots + OAThrice make Footwork win over punching? Sorry don't know the math.

No. Poise Shoes did for a while as you could still keep capped gear haste, which is part of what made OA3 so temporarily attractive.

[Thorny]

af3+2 allows for dmg+45 kick shoes and 25% haste with faith torque and hands free(could use aurore gloves for capped haste in some situations).. which wins is strongly dependant on what the augment on af3 set bonus is.. but ascetic's fury is a huge blow to footwork

[Darkmagi]

Still waiting to see some numbers on victory smite as well. I would imagine it's going to be the top mnk WS, especially when combined with RR.

[Jeryhn]

No. Poise Shoes did for a while as you could still keep capped gear haste, which is part of what made OA3 so temporarily attractive.

Yeah, but considering high-end atmas (Eve, Briareus, Pulverizer) are Fire Taipans still worthwhile?

[Kirschy]

Sorry for sounding so clueless, but how do you determine the exact DMG+ from kicks?

[Motenten]

Outside of Ascetic's Fury brokenness, OA2-3 Footwork with full Tantra +2 > Fire Taipan +1 with full Tantra +2 > Fire Taipan +1 with full Usu > OA2-3 Footwork with Poise > Fire Taipan (lvl 80) with full Usu. This doesn't count whatever the possible "augments kick attacks" is. OA2-3 Footwork with Tantra +2 is about as far ahead of standard with Tantra +2 as their lvl 80 counterparts were.

I'm wondering whether the high weaponskill rate possible with OA2-3 Footwork would compensate for the somewhat lower base damage if you used Ascetic's Fury with it. Since such a large portion of Fury's damage is from mods rather than the base weapon it may be worth it to go that route if you're weaponskilling ~40% more often. (edit: assuming Razed Ruin atma, obviously, which I don't have, so can't test)