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  1. #961
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    i feel you

    u can try search comment to buy off some groups

    thats what i did and met a kind JP that gave it to me ^^
    Like hell. If you are a NIN, sub DNC, party up your time to 200-300+ mins, then farm solo on <insert easy DC-T mob here> until it drops with capped amber light. Obtained about 4 AF3 pieces this way. A friend of mine got her NIN feet as well like this. Afterwards, you can sell AF to others that can't wait for December update, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Like hell. If you are a NIN, sub DNC, party up your time to 200-300+ mins, then farm solo on <insert easy DC-T mob here> until it drops with capped amber light. Obtained about 4 AF3 pieces this way. A friend of mine got her NIN feet as well like this. Afterwards, you can sell AF to others that can't wait for December update, lol.
    first 3 weeks of Scars i set up parties every night just to get my boots finally got my my war after 39 hours pup after 4 hours blu after 108 hours drg 7 hours (mnk and pld free lot) just getting seals to drop with or without grellow seems to be a nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Like hell. If you are a NIN, sub DNC, party up your time to 200-300+ mins, then farm solo on <insert easy DC-T mob here> until it drops with capped amber light. Obtained about 4 AF3 pieces this way. A friend of mine got her NIN feet as well like this. Afterwards, you can sell AF to others that can't wait for December update, lol.
    That sounds wonderful, that sounds reasonable, that sounds like something I've done and just am incredibly unlucky on >.> More to the point just grinding gold boxes is pretty unproductive unless you arn't capped on KIs and are waiting on timer NM respawns.

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    orz

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    grats but weapons are that way

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    finished last night(today) at 4am.
    Yeah go get some sleep, then maybe post it in the right thread. Grats nonetheless.

    Has anyone figured out what the added effects do on the BST head and feet yet? I've been using the head while fighting Raskovnik (Vermin vs. Plants) but haven't noticed a whole lot. Certainly not a visible difference in intimidation rate. I've started using RR atma too so differences in damage are not something i'm going to be eyeballing, let alone killing it without the atma so I can waste more zetas on it for control tests.

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    Hit things for an hour and finalli got the stupid Retrace Staff to proc DRK AF3's set bonus. Managed proof for how it works too. It adds a modifier to your damage based on HP%. Damage * (1+HP%). At 100%, I was able to get double damage on a hit /w signet staff. @ 50% I got 50% added onto damage, @ 30% I got 30% added onto damage. Since Retrace Staff has 1 DMG, damage isn't varied and it's much easier to get values which are conclusive~ Only did around ~500 hits total, but it appears to be 1-2% proc rate =/. I took more pictures, but no reason to flood this post /w them, unless someone wants them~

    http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/545/af3proc.png

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    thank you for that kirschy. was that all 3 pieces to activate the set that you tested? or just 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    thank you for that kirschy. was that all 3 pieces to activate the set that you tested? or just 2?
    All 3. I'm guessing it's .5% per piece after the first, or 1% per piece after the first. Should be easier to test once body/hands come out.

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    Thanks for all the work.

    I'm not looking forward to the updating of OP for Body/hand info =.=a So when the time comes if you people could send me PM's on all the new Info i would love that so i can keep this updates as much as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschy View Post
    Hit things for an hour and finalli got the stupid Retrace Staff to proc DRK AF3's set bonus. Managed proof for how it works too. It adds a modifier to your damage based on HP%. Damage * (1+HP%). At 100%, I was able to get double damage on a hit /w signet staff. @ 50% I got 50% added onto damage, @ 30% I got 30% added onto damage. Since Retrace Staff has 1 DMG, damage isn't varied and it's much easier to get values which are conclusive~ Only did around ~500 hits total, but it appears to be 1-2% proc rate =/. I took more pictures, but no reason to flood this post /w them, unless someone wants them~

    http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/545/af3proc.png

    Awesome. This means DRG probably works the same way. Also means it's not likely worth full-timing the set unless you can cap haste, since dropping even 1% haste is going to drop your damage by more than the 1% doubling you lose.

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    Yea the set bonus is an overwhelming disappoint. You'd think with the popularity of Usukane and Morrigan sets, they'd want to put a little more utility into the set bonus. At least the pieces are unique and powerful individualli, even if only situational~

    EDIT: There's also the possibility of an exponential increase as you obtain more pieces of the set. Salvage set bonus requires all 5 pieces, and WoTG is a linear increase. There's no particular pattern they're expected to follow for the AF3 set~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschy View Post
    Yea the set bonus is an overwhelming disappoint. You'd think with the popularity of Usukane and Morrigan sets, they'd want to put a little more utility into the set bonus. At least the pieces are unique and powerful individualli, even if only situational~

    EDIT: There's also the possibility of an exponential increase as you obtain more pieces of the set. Salvage set bonus requires all 5 pieces, and WoTG is a linear increase. There's no particular pattern they're expected to follow for the AF3 set~
    guess bst and pup are in the same boot for this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschy View Post
    Yea the set bonus is an overwhelming disappoint. You'd think with the popularity of Usukane and Morrigan sets, they'd want to put a little more utility into the set bonus. At least the pieces are unique and powerful individualli, even if only situational~

    EDIT: There's also the possibility of an exponential increase as you obtain more pieces of the set. Salvage set bonus requires all 5 pieces, and WoTG is a linear increase. There's no particular pattern they're expected to follow for the AF3 set~
    If i recall (At least with the ~68 Iron Ram set) The first 4 pieces gave a total of ~15 Resistance, and the final piece doubled that to 30 Resistance.

    So these set bonuses might work like those, partial lame bonuses up until 5/5 where the set bonus is doubled. like say, right now about ~2% Proc, with all 5 we might be looking @ 5~7% proc rate or so, which isn't horrible if the full set still allows for capped haste.

    Looking most forward to THF Set as its my favorite job... Not looking foward to Aladdin body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    If i recall (At least with the ~68 Iron Ram set) The first 4 pieces gave a total of ~15 Resistance, and the final piece doubled that to 30 Resistance.

    So these set bonuses might work like those, partial lame bonuses up until 5/5 where the set bonus is doubled. like say, right now about ~2% Proc, with all 5 we might be looking @ 5~7% proc rate or so, which isn't horrible if the full set still allows for capped haste.

    Looking most forward to THF Set as its my favorite job... Not looking foward to Aladdin body.
    If this is the case, the set bonuses would become way more attractive with the full set. Nice to know we have some incentive to look forward to it~

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    Once again, nice work Kirschy. And wow what a shitty proc rate jesus...

    So you can confirm the proc rate is based on the number of AF3 pieces and not your HP. Makes sense, but again, 0.5% per piece? Ugh, what are the other set bonuses like? I can sort of understand DRK's being lower since it's just based on normal swings and not conditional attacks like DA or TA, though that is still stupid low. Hopefully the full set will bump it up to around 5% at least.

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    That proc rate is pretty similar to what I found on DNC. My first parse had it around 1% with 2 pieces, my second parse had still around 1% with 3 pieces? It's very difficult to tell what the true proc rate is when it is so low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschy View Post
    Yea the set bonus is an overwhelming disappoint. You'd think with the popularity of Usukane and Morrigan sets, they'd want to put a little more utility into the set bonus. At least the pieces are unique and powerful individualli, even if only situational~

    EDIT: There's also the possibility of an exponential increase as you obtain more pieces of the set. Salvage set bonus requires all 5 pieces, and WoTG is a linear increase. There's no particular pattern they're expected to follow for the AF3 set~
    >.> I wish my friend actually listened to me about the Salvage set bonuses requiring all 5 pieces, he thinks because some stupid set that gave cumulative stats the more pieces of gear you put on, that.. that is how it works for everything, I wanted to beat him with a club, anyhow thanks for the tests much appreciated!

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    The set bonus on WAR set with 3 pieces is also awfully low, wouldn't be shocked if that's around 1% too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehrahin View Post
    The set bonus on WAR set with 3 pieces is also awfully low, wouldn't be shocked if that's around 1% too.
    Luckily war can afford to tp in all 3 pieces and still cap haste without dropping 5/6hit iirc.

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