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  1. #1081
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    That's the earring.
    Whoops! (got the wrong job anyway, DNC is the one with DW on the body, not NIN.)

  2. #1082
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    Charis Bangles +1=

    5/5 Reverse Flourish merits + Bangles = 88TP return

    +WS TP return = No waiting on Attack round to Solo Darkness ^^

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    So 75 -> 88? Weird! If it was 87, I'd think it was +20% off our base of 60. +13 is just odd though. Have you tried it with other Finishing move totals?

    It'd be cool if the +2s upped it to 100TP back. Would make the work for them worth it, imop.

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    Yeah that was quick math after 3 5/5 FM's, it's possible that 20% is more accurate.

  5. #1085
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    Dude that avatar is awesome. Bunny ears & pom-poms FTW!

  6. #1086
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    That bold thing you do. Why?

  7. #1087
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    cause he has the Ultimate TP set for SAM in his signature.

  8. #1088
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    Genuinely curious. Your posts would inspire a fraction of the annoyance without it.

  9. #1089
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocara View Post
    So 1% of your spells will fire off in your precast gear, nice. I guess if it's free at least you're not losing anything.
    there arent 2 peices of SCH af3 that you should be pre-casting in.

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    For emphasis, because text can't convey the same context as speech.

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    I say this for your benefit- take it down a notch.

  12. #1092
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    Italics are less emphasis than bold. Also, that link has been dead for months, fukken fix it.

  13. #1093
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    I've gotten 87tp 3 times in a row with 5/5 reverse flourish merits.

    I'm thinking you didn't do your tests from 0 and it's actually 87.5 tp.

  14. #1094
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    Assume it's correct to use this thread as opposed to starting a new one!

    Thanks to Muhnjob for testing with me since I didn't plan to make these gloves (though I may now).

    Unkai Kote +1 Enhances Sekkanoki:

    ~1191hp Spirits Within
    300tp - Sekka (gloves remain on for WS), 223 dmg. Equivalent to a 200TP WS.
    200tp - Sekka (gloves for JA and WS), 186dmg.
    200tp - Sekka (gloves for JA, removed for WS), 148dmg.

    Seems that when you use Sekka, you gain 50% of the remaining TP as bonus TP.
    Attempt to confirm:

    260tp - Sekka (gloves for JA+WS).
    Expected dmg = 1191/8 + 1191*.8/16 = 148.875+59.55 = 207~208 (give or take another few depending on rounding)
    Result: 204 dmg
    Close enough, I'm sure I'm off on rounding.


    TLDR:
    Unkai Kote +1 gives you 50% of the remainder TP as bonus TP on your WS, but must be left on for the WS for it to work.
    Unkai Kote +2 -
    1479 HP, 300 TP, Sekkanoki+WS with Kote+2 on = Spirits Within for 693 (expected value for a 300TP Spirits Within).

    So Kote+1 gives 50% of remainder TP as bonus TP on the WS (If you have 200 originally, you use 100, remainder=100, so you get +50 TP bonus. At 300 TP, you get +100 TP bonus).
    And Kote+2 gives 100% of the remainder TP as bonus TP on the WS, meaning the Sekkanoki WS works more like a mini Meikyo-Shisui, and you'll get the TP value that you visibly have with it.
    Kote must be kept on for the WS for it to work in either case.

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    ^ That actually makes the gloves slightly less crappy.

    Still horribly disappointed with SAM AF3 overall.

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    Stupid double post, sorry.

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    Noticed last night playing MNK that I'm getting Double Kick Attacks with one +2 piece.

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    Ok, I've asked several times and an answer never comes up as to what the enhances despoil effect is on THF AF3 Feet.

    I finally got my +1's so I did a few quick tests myself.

    It does NOT:
    Split the Steal/Despoil timers
    Give debuff on a failed Despoil
    Change the duration of the debuff (still 90 seconds)

    So all that seems left is that it either
    1. Strengthens the debuff effect
    or
    2. Further alters the item pool

    Testing on a mob where the despoil debuff is Slow seems like the easiest way to check #1

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    or could give the ability to inflict different status ailments than the base despoil grants.

  20. #1100
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    Just got WAR AF3+2 hands today, what's the best way to test the enhances restraint effect?

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