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  1. #1141
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    Tantra Cyclas +2 testing, as per Kirschy's request:

    barefisted outside bastok on lvl 1 mobs, 51 tp after 10 attacks with and without the body equipped, so no idea on how it's enhancing the martial arts trait.
    Impetus enhancement doesn't extend its duration, give extra attack per hit, or seem to make my crit % rise any steeper than it had before.

    Edit: while camping orctrap for my trials, i got a random, non-critial hit for 211 dmg, which was well above my normal punches, which were in the 120-150 range. This could the body's effect?

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    isnt it augments impetus? maybe check for added acc or increased crit dmg? could even be kick rate or counter rate, anything really

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    its both. augments impetus and enhance martial arts trait.

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    Sorry I know its both =/, I was just pointing out to the fact that its augments impetus when in your post above, you were testing for an enhancement, which is different.

    Sorry if you misunderstood

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    Okay so after getting hit a ton of times on PLD wearing 2 pieces of AF3+2 (feet/legs) I have yet to see a proc & absorb damage. I didn't do a controlled test but the number of hits I took while messing around in dominion it should have activated at some point. Anyone with 2+ pieces of PLD+2 managed to do any testing on the "Occasionally Absorbs Damage Taken"? Am I that unlucky / is it that rare, or is the set broken? Blah Blah lolPLD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    Tantra Cyclas +2 testing, as per Kirschy's request:

    barefisted outside bastok on lvl 1 mobs, 51 tp after 10 attacks with and without the body equipped, so no idea on how it's enhancing the martial arts trait.
    Impetus enhancement doesn't extend its duration, give extra attack per hit, or seem to make my crit % rise any steeper than it had before.

    Edit: while camping orctrap for my trials, i got a random, non-critial hit for 211 dmg, which was well above my normal punches, which were in the 120-150 range. This could the body's effect?
    Are you wearing any store tp gear at all? Because bare handed w/ none gets 4.6 tp/hit (if you were wearing no stp and the enhances ma effect is .5 tp and not attack speed, I'm gonna be pissed >.>)

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    I also get 4.6tp/hit completely naked, which according to wiki's delay formulas suggests a delay of ~355. I don't understand how Guitarman is getting 5.1 tp/hit w/o the body, let alone with it. Something is wrong somewhere. Is there anyone out there who has been following mnk calculations that can shed some light on this?

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    Well, he did say bare fists, not naked. Plausible to assume he was wearing stp gear

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    5.1 TP/hit lines up with 396-400 delay. 400 delay is your base delay with MA I... perhaps it sets your delay (for TP calculations) to the first tier of the trait?

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    nvm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    5.1 TP/hit lines up with 396-400 delay. 400 delay is your base delay with MA I... perhaps it sets your delay (for TP calculations) to the first tier of the trait?
    Nah, cause he was getting 5.1 w/o as well

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    i had rajas and the pants on (11stp). i had totally forgotten about stp. i'll redo the trial and make sure i dont have any stp on in about 30

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Nah, cause he was getting 5.1 w/o as well
    Herp, nevermind then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    That's 38-39 STP though
    13, according to ffxi-calc, which would line up w/ tantra hose+2, rajas, and brutal or usu shoes + rajas no brutal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    13, according to ffxi-calc, which would line up w/ tantra hose+2, rajas, and brutal or usu shoes + rajas no brutal
    Yeah, did that wrong. I'm on a roll tonight, don't stop me now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    i had rajas and the pants on (11stp). i had totally forgotten about stp. i'll redo the trial and make sure i dont have any stp on in about 30
    Before you do that, I think we've already come w/ the answer.

    -10 delay.

    270 delay w/ 12 stp = 5.1/punch

    260 delay w/ 12 stp = 4.9/punch

    So you didn't see a change in tp/punch because 270 and 280 delay give the same TP/punch


    Edit: Also lines up with pup+2 legs enhance martial arts of -10 delay as well

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    ah well mystery solved then. still like to figure out the impetus enhancement. any ideas about the erratic punches i posted about? 120-150 on TW flytraps but the occasional 220 non-critical. is that within normal range and i just never thought to notice? or would the pieces be doing that?

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    -10 delay still pretti cool I guess~

    As for your erratic punches, it sounds like you're using AF3+1/AF3+2 feet, and you're noticing the extra damage from a kick. The feet are like wearing +40/+45 DMG respectively to your kicks which explains the extra damage you're seeing~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miroku_Asura View Post
    My money's on that it will- the SMN AF3+2 horn gave 2/tick
    The SMN AF3+1 horn also has refresh; the question is, do all +2's give 2/tic refresh or do they need to have it on the +1?

  20. #1160
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    As far as I've seen all "Enhances Martial Arts" on gear is -10 delay; the only possible exception is Kenkonken which only needs more testing to be proven.

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