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  1. #1321
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    Quote Originally Posted by grevenilvec75 View Post
    Which ones don't?
    Pretty much anything that's a reduction is an increasing return, anything that's an increase is decreasing returns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    Haste, Fast Cast, PDT, MDT, DW off the top of my head.

    EDIT: Subtle Blow, evasion too.
    Speaking of which... and kinda off topic...
    So like, If I am level 90, with 3,000 evasion, fighting a mob that is level 95, it has a 25% chance at hitting me correct due to Level correction?

    5% floor + 4% each level it's above me right? (roughly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phraust View Post
    Speaking of which... and kinda off topic...
    So like, If I am level 90, with 3,000 evasion, fighting a mob that is level 95, it has a 25% chance at hitting me correct due to Level correction?

    5% floor + 4% each level it's above me right? (roughly)
    No, 20% floor. A mob gains 2% hit rate per point of level difference, but that's applied *before* the floor, so it has a -600% chance of hitting you (-590% before level correction, or whatever) which then gets floored to 20%.

    the 5% is the *minimum* you will evade, 80% is the maximum.

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    kk thanks.

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    Any recommendations for NIN Body seals? Tiger NM in Ule blows with constant Amnesia Aura. Pixie, I have no idea how the fight goes, and with how many little people you can do it, since there's no info on it. Ironclad is stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xIndustrialxAngelx View Post
    Any recommendations for NIN Body seals? Tiger NM in Ule blows with constant Amnesia Aura. Pixie, I have no idea how the fight goes, and with how many little people you can do it, since there's no info on it. Ironclad is stupid.
    The tiger. Shit is easy mage bounced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xIndustrialxAngelx View Post
    Any recommendations for NIN Body seals? Tiger NM in Ule blows with constant Amnesia Aura. Pixie, I have no idea how the fight goes, and with how many little people you can do it, since there's no info on it. Ironclad is stupid.
    Ironclad is awesome :D 10300+ :hi :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Ironclad is awesome :D 10300+ :hi :D
    Is there something I'm unaware of about Smiter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Is there something I'm unaware of about Smiter?
    Ironclad in Altepa has three modes/stances. One takes double melee damage and one half magic, one takes double magic and one half melee, and the third is neutral. And as we all know, people love putting up high numbers!

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    Arm Cannon makes melee do double damage until it uses another TP and he got a high-end WS during that phase. It's nothing that makes it a good mob to farm(unless you're also doing an iron plate empy or something).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Arm Cannon makes melee do double damage until it uses another TP and he got a high-end WS during that phase. It's nothing that makes it a good mob to farm(unless you're also doing an iron plate empy or something).
    Idk for us (me NIN friend WHM mule BRD) it was very easy. You can easily kite it (around "ruins" close to doll NM spawn point) till whm or brd proc yellow. I also find out its very easy to stagger between his attacks with fast spells like ninjutsu or brd songs (with atmas for fast singing). With WHM/blm in lightning, light, dark, fire days you can probably got all 10 seals. After stagger when you killing and it makes Arm Cannon you can take like 50% his hp in 30 sec (WHM should stun his next tp move to makes weaknes for physical stay longer).

    Another advantage is that it's easy to deaggro to change trigger for grellow.

    It also require doll NM which is very easy to kill and trigger for it has very nice drop rate from dolls. Arm from bombs has high drop rate too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xIndustrialxAngelx View Post
    Any recommendations for NIN Body seals? Tiger NM in Ule blows with constant Amnesia Aura. Pixie, I have no idea how the fight goes, and with how many little people you can do it, since there's no info on it. Ironclad is stupid.
    For a melee/mage setup, Pixie is easier to deal with than Tiger imo. You'll be eating alot of magic AOE (-ga4) but it's better than Byakko2. Pixie also has a hate reset on Autumn Breeze, 2 melee + mage is best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschy View Post
    Ironclad in Altepa has three modes/stances. One takes double melee damage and one half magic, one takes double magic and one half melee, and the third is neutral. And as we all know, people love putting up high numbers!

    Is there a way to tell what mode it's in, other than just poking away at it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacite View Post
    Is there a way to tell what mode it's in, other than just poking away at it?
    What Thorny said, it depends on which TP it used last. I only fought it a handful of times to raise influence. I don't remember the specifics.

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    Do tiger for Nin body seals. It sucks but its by far the best option for them.

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    I don't see the problem with the tiger personally... Full DD gear, DD katana's, and Subtle Blow Spell, turn around when it uses TP moves, can kill in 5 min no problem. 75% of the time I didn't even have Amnesia.

    Setup was BRD, BLM, WHM, NIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesio View Post
    I don't see the problem with the tiger personally... Full DD gear, DD katana's, and Subtle Blow Spell, turn around when it uses TP moves, can kill in 5 min no problem. 75% of the time I didn't even have Amnesia.

    Setup was BRD, BLM, WHM, NIN
    I assume your kill speed is duo to having the blm? The biggest issue for my group, (MNK/THF/BLM/RDM), it took too long to kill because of the Amnesia Aura.

    Edit: I just tried this now and it would have been more clear to say - you run away from Disorienting Wail, not just turn around. Makes things a lot easier.

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    If you time it well and don't have hate, you can run out of the Amnesia aura and back in to sneak in WSs.

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    So is it safe to say Teugghia for BLM body seals? Amarok is no fun to build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxzer View Post
    So is it safe to say Teugghia for BLM body seals? Amarok is no fun to build.
    I did Amarok. That pixie was no fun.

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