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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    I Know you're looking for conclusive, but i'll throw my +1 into this.

    Was fighting Fistule today on THF (5/5 Empyrean+2), and IDR my Average Evis but i'm relatively certain my SA were only doing in the range of ~400 cause of Fistules PDT, and i landed an Evisc for about 2,900, I thought it was unusually high considering my average damage throughout the fight, might have had a "triple damage" happen during that.
    Was it SA/TA? What was the TP return? Did all hits crit? Ya, too many factors are invloved with eyeballing something like this. It's just like all the other cases. I'm still sticking with: It doesn't work until irrefutable evidence is shown. I've not seen one Ukko's so far to exceed it's maximum damage, and i'd think due to the nature of Ravager's set, it would be pretty obvious when it proc'd on Ukko's and definitely would exceed it's maximum with 2 ODD hits in it at least once.

    That being said, there was that one 10-11K Ukko's by Massimo posted in fapworthy thread, so that could have been ODD, but i suspect restraint+Griffon Claw combo + triples(but idk).

    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Best way to test i would guess is level 1 mob, Assassin'sCharge > Mandalic Stab lol.
    This should work, it's been proven that set bonus can still proc if the additional hits don't activate, so i'd assume just 1 shotting mobs on either war or thf with 5/5 +2 on would be a good way to test also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EjinCaitsith View Post
    Was it SA/TA? What was the TP return? Did all hits crit? Ya, too many factors are invloved with eyeballing something like this. It's just like all the other cases. I'm still sticking with: It doesn't work until irrefutable evidence is shown. I've not seen one Ukko's so far to exceed it's maximum damage, and i'd think due to the nature of Ravager's set, it would be pretty obvious when it proc'd on Ukko's and definitely would exceed it's maximum with 2 ODD hits in it at least once.

    That being said, there was that one 10-11K Ukko's by Massimo posted in fapworthy thread, so that could have been ODD, but i suspect restraint+Griffon Claw combo + triples(but idk).



    This should work, it's been proven that set bonus can still proc if the additional hits don't activate, so i'd assume just 1 shotting mobs on either war or thf with 5/5 +2 on would be a good way to test also.
    From calc max dmg on Ukko's (with capped pdif, all crits, 2xta, etc.) should be around 9500 before restraint so 10-11k is pretty much possible with Restaint and w/o odd.

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    Maybe the Gown gives something that are available from the level increase that is planned in the future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    2900 in unusually high? I tho Evis can do around that? I saw many Evis around 2500-3000 on same mobs that my :hi was doing 4.5-5k and I did 5226 :hi on Fistule.
    Triple dmg on Evisceration would be more like 6-9k no?
    THF WHM BLM (so no bard, Dia may have worn too and I didnt notice cause I can script a bot to fight it)

    [17:53:38]Nynja uses Evisceration.
    [17:53:38]The Fistule takes 2546 points of damage.

    [17:54:02]Nynja uses Evisceration.
    [17:54:02]The Fistule takes 1904 points of damage.

    [17:54:19]Nynja uses Evisceration.
    [17:54:19]The Fistule takes 1962 points of damage.

    [17:54:48]Nynja uses Evisceration.
    [17:54:48]The Fistule takes 1601 points of damage.

    [17:55:07]Nynja uses Evisceration.
    [17:55:07]The Fistule takes 1748 points of damage.


    inb4 (BUT UR ATMAS SUK), but 2900 isnt the norm at all. Perhaps if you have a bard...but then again why would a bard help, who casts minuets? rite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    THF WHM BLM (so no bard, Dia may have worn too and I didnt notice cause I can script a bot to fight it)

    [17:53:38]Nynja uses Evisceration.
    [17:53:38]The Fistule takes 2546 points of damage.

    [17:54:02]Nynja uses Evisceration.
    [17:54:02]The Fistule takes 1904 points of damage.

    [17:54:19]Nynja uses Evisceration.
    [17:54:19]The Fistule takes 1962 points of damage.

    [17:54:48]Nynja uses Evisceration.
    [17:54:48]The Fistule takes 1601 points of damage.

    [17:55:07]Nynja uses Evisceration.
    [17:55:07]The Fistule takes 1748 points of damage.


    inb4 (BUT UR ATMAS SUK), but 2900 isnt the norm at all. Perhaps if you have a bard...but then again why would a bard help, who casts minuets? rite?
    yes, Thank you.

    That was about my averages too, Which is why the ~2,900 Seemed unusual when my normal Melee crits were doing around ~50-90(IDR ) I just know my SA were doing ~300/400/500 (I was SA in full +2 to try and get a set bonus for funsies).

    It was BST, THF, WHM, DRK, or something, just a group of pick-up friends helping someone get a Farsha. My averages were about ~1600/1900 using RR/GH/Apoc, My TP I don't recall But the entire night i was hitting ~maximum TP return (18? was it for all 8 hits) cause i have about a ~31% Chance of Triple Attack during WS, which with 5 hits odds in my favor for full 8 returns.

    Now like i said, I know it wasn't concrete evidence, I was just pointing out an unusual occurrence in a fight, it could of course be explain through other means I acknowledge, but! now you know my buffs too, pertinent information =x.


    Quote Originally Posted by EjinCaitsith View Post
    Was it SA/TA? What was the TP return? Did all hits crit? Ya, too many factors are invloved with eyeballing something like this. It's just like all the other cases. I'm still sticking with: It doesn't work until irrefutable evidence is shown. I've not seen one Ukko's so far to exceed it's maximum damage, and i'd think due to the nature of Ravager's set, it would be pretty obvious when it proc'd on Ukko's and definitely would exceed it's maximum with 2 ODD hits in it at least once.

    That being said, there was that one 10-11K Ukko's by Massimo posted in fapworthy thread, so that could have been ODD, but i suspect restraint+Griffon Claw combo + triples(but idk).



    This should work, it's been proven that set bonus can still proc if the additional hits don't activate, so i'd assume just 1 shotting mobs on either war or thf with 5/5 +2 on would be a good way to test also.

    No SA, GH/RR/Apoc, My Usual ~18TP Return (8 hits), Unknown Criticals. Either way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    2900 in unusually high? I tho Evis can do around that? I saw many Evis around 2500-3000 on same mobs that my :hi was doing 4.5-5k and I did 5226 :hi on Fistule.
    Triple dmg on Evisceration would be more like 6-9k no?
    Evis is 5 hit, I'm assuming if Triple-Damage activated it would only activate on the 3 hits of the Triple on the WS, not all 5-8, not causing as gigantic a spike as straight 3x Damage, probably closer to 2x Damage, So if my averages were ~1900 with usual full TP Returns, a 2,900 would seem about right for a mob that takes 50% Damage and Triple Damage only 3 of the possible 8 hits.

    Again, I know its not concrete and i've already begun the slow process of "Assasin's Charge > Stab" on level 1 mobs... so its just a matter of time

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    SA -> Assassin's Charge -> Viper Bite would be much easier for you, I'd think. Viper Bite has the same damage as your normal swings, so you'll absolutely know when damage is tripled. That's going to be a pain to test though, and negative tests don't necessarily mean it can't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    SA -> Assassin's Charge -> Viper Bite would be much easier for you, I'd think. Viper Bite has the same damage as your normal swings, so you'll absolutely know when damage is tripled. That's going to be a pain to test though, and negative tests don't necessarily mean it can't happen.
    It is a horrible pain, But with 5/5 +2 i think i have about ~5% Chance to proc set bonus, So it shouldn't take very long.

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    Savant's Gown +2 doesn't increase AoE range on accession (tested with stoneskin and various storms) Would assume the same on manifestation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grevenilvec75 View Post
    Savant's Gown +2 doesn't increase AoE range on accession (tested with stoneskin and various storms) Would assume the same on manifestation.
    It doesn't say enhance manifestation/accession anyways even in JP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holyman View Post
    It doesn't say enhance manifestation/accession anyways even in JP.
    Yeah well you got any better ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grevenilvec75 View Post
    Yeah well you got any better ideas?
    My money is on extra magic accuracy. Every other option seems to be exhausted. Is there anything "not dangerous" that's safe to test on but tough enough to resist? Try blinding Qiqirn rangers (resist blind trait) naked with an Apollo's Staff and whatever other -macc gear you can get.

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    Didn't see this looking through a few pages but has anyone figured out what 'enhances enmity douse' from the Goetia gloves +2 does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grevenilvec75 View Post
    Yeah well you got any better ideas?
    I was hoping it worked like enlightenment where you gain access to both Addendum's no matter which stance (Dark or light Arts) you were currently in.

    Looking at what Addendum: White does, it allows casting for spells that SCH normally doesn't have access to. How exactly can you Enhance that aside from what has already been tested?

    Go into Add: White, then change to Dark arts, and then go back to Light arts and see if Addendum: White is still active?

    Activate Addendum: White and see if Addendum Black appears in the Gem list (I know it sounds stupid)

    I am starting to lean towards it either being broken, the effect is actually augmented (randomly turn white healing magic paralyna, erase, etc into AoE's), or the wrong Gem labeled on the gear.

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    Maybe:
    -Addendums don't consume a strategem charge
    -Conserve MP on addendums
    -Fast Cast on addendums

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    Just posted on the official Twitter thread that SCH Body is a known issue. It's not working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Just posted on the official Twitter thread that SCH Body is a known issue. It's not working.
    "Shits broken as intended"

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    Aye, from @FFXI_JP:

    学者のエンピリアン装束「SVガウ

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    Sweet, I was right, I knew it had to be that since all the other ideas was augmenting it not enhancing it.

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    The tweet doesn't mention that there is a known issue with the body. It just says, "The Enhances Addendum: White & Addendum: Black Effect on Scholar Empyrean Armor (Savant's Gown +1 (+2) is enmity."

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