Final Magian/Empyreon Armor.

[Spider-Dan]

DRK AF3 head is an unmatched TP piece and legs/feet and unmatched WS pieces.

THF AF3 head/legs are unmatched TP pieces and feet is unmatched TA/eva/TH piece, and you still managed to cry about it, so...

[Eleven19]

I have all 6 Seal's for the headpeice upgrade... but getting the Magian Moogle to take them is proving to be more difficult then I thought ><;

Edit, to much crown-n-coke, found the box to trade the items to!

... Sooo? Again, where did you get 6 head seals?

[FailureMidgard]

Af3+2 shouldn't be a hard, or long term goal. Remember, this is all level 81-85 gear. Don't want to need to fully replace it come December. If anything, add another set of trials for AF3+4, which would set the gear at lvl 99. People weren't completing salvage gear for a year mostly because they couldn't enter the zone often enough. Most were still at a low rank and could only farm the original 2000 points needed every 2-3 days. Now it's a daily event.

Disagree. I do agree AF3 may go up to +3 or +4, but I think this is the start of new endgame gear, and I don't think it'll be largely outclassed.

Failure, with a kited strategy, how many people do you think you could use and win? Also any suggestions on which kind of DD would be best?

Honestly not sure. We just went and got the Dozing Dorian atma today (yaya, we were slacking before basically) due to the fact that atma seemed to be un-dispellable even when cruor buffs were getting dispelled when a Lethal Triclip landed. I expect our tanks will be able to survive Ruinous Scythe now, so it'll be a bit easier to straight tank.

That being said, really dunno, I think you could do it with 9-10, I don't have a clue on rage timer/etc either. It took us 37minutes to kill with 16-17 from an exp ally (though 1 person went and switched to Aegis pld), I think we had something like:
Rdm Whm Brd Pld Pld Mnk
Sam Drk Thf Brd Pup
Rng Rng Cor Blm Blm

Really, I'm not sure how kiting would work, when we did start to kite when our Aegis got raped, people were still getting doomed while kiting, so range seems pretty big, and it was doing triclips and scythes in pretty shitty locations, so I'm really not sure how great of an idea it is (maybe have someone sac the bats/vampyre outside the island and pull it to a place you have more room). I'd probably suggest doing something similar to Turul though for lesser #s, and go with like:
Whm Brd Tank Tank (pld or rdm since smn DDs, w/e really, get dorian atma...add a rdm to tank party if using paladins...a high HP DD tank is probably fine too, our mnk survived for a decent while, but ended up dying also...but again, getting cruor buffs dispelled is lame as fuck).
Smn Smn Smn Smn Cor (all /whm for cursna spam to be sure a tank doesn't die)
Could perhaps drop people still, would need to fight it with a more fight-optimized setup really.

... Sooo? Again, where did you get 6 head seals?

Wow, it's all over the place, just go kill NMs, Attohwa=head, Vunkerl=feet, Misareaux=legs. They have drop pools of like 7+ (maybe all 20) per NM, so really just go slaughter any free-standing or tier1 popped NM.

[Deader2818]

Guess its to hard to say what nms drop what pieces or if there is a quest for head piece much like there is for legs and feet in the other 2 zones.

Attohwa has the least amount of info so far so would be nice to get more info on it.

[Rocl]

I have a feeling the seals drop as randomly as the quest rewards.

[Eleven19]

Wow, it's all over the place, just go kill NMs, Attohwa=head, Vunkerl=feet, Misareaux=legs. They have drop pools of like 7+ (maybe all 20) per NM, so really just go slaughter any free-standing or tier1 popped NM.

Yeah I know generally, but there's very little information posted on Attohwa. I'd like to see any info on what head seals drop from what.

[FailureMidgard]

We've seen NMs confirmed with ~7 different drops. If someone is claiming they only drop 3, they are lying to you. I wouldn't be surprised if they can all drop all 20, at all.

[Toth]

Quick question: If you do these quests in a group, do the seals get pooled or just to the person completing it? Just seems so weird that it's random.

[Eleven19]

We've seen NMs confirmed with ~7 different drops. If someone is claiming they only drop 3, they are lying to you. I wouldn't be surprised if they can all drop all 20, at all.

Yeah this is what I was looking to understand, whether or not certain NM's drop certain seals, or if its all random like the quests.

Alright, thanks.

[Thalandor46]

I know we won't know for sure until the set is obtained, but does anyone have any speculation on what "Augments Songs" could possibly mean? I figure if it was "Enhances Song Potency", it would say so, but augments? Really scratching my head over this one.

[Gwynplaine]

POL: Defeating an enemy by attacking its weak point will now yield a greater variety of spoils.

Okay well since it seems hitting an NM's weakness can allow it to drop several seals at once, I hope it may be that hitting a higher tier NM's weakness will allow it to drop at least a few jewels/coins/cards at once as well.

[Shenrien]

I know we won't know for sure until the set is obtained, but does anyone have any speculation on what "Augments Songs" could possibly mean? I figure if it was "Enhances Song Potency", it would say so, but augments? Really scratching my head over this one.

Probably raises duration and potency of songs. AF3 kinda really killed mythics :/ unless it all stacks, then Carnwenhan BRDs will probably have 5 minute songs with all this shit lol.

[Malacite]

Probably raises duration and potency of songs. AF3 kinda really killed mythics :/ unless it all stacks, then Carnwenhan BRDs will probably have 5 minute songs with all this shit lol.

Didn't they also put out a BRD neck piece that enhances song duration?


+3/+4 armor honestly scares me. We'll probably get them as I doubt SE will leave this gear at level 85~90, but just how much stronger can they make it at 99? I mean shit, most of this gear is already grossly over powering, and it's only going to get stronger?! The key thing to look at, is how much it jumps in scale too.

The leap from Relic to Relic +1 is petty at best, AF to AF+1 is decent. But there is a fucking world of difference between AF3 -> +1, and from +1 to +2. Whether or not this will hold out at +3 and above though, is up for debate and what I'm most curious about. I'm also inclined to think that SE has designed these quests in such a way that people should focus on one or two sets at most. That remains to be seen as we still don't have concrete info on the drops, but it's looking like SE really doesn't intend for people to be strutting +2's on multiple jobs (3 or more)

[Goso]

I needed 8 for whm piece, and got them off of NM's in Attohwa. Killed prolly 6-7 random nms, some pop some that were just up with a small group of 4-5 people.

The drops were pretty random, but it seams as if the west side nm's were dropping meele seals, and the right side was dropping mage seals.

On a side note... the enhances Divine Veil on whm hat increases the AoE distance.

[Hirro]

I needed 8 for whm piece, and got them off of NM's in Attohwa. Killed prolly 6-7 random nms, some pop some that were just up with a small group of 4-5 people.

The drops were pretty random, but it seams as if the west side nm's were dropping meele seals, and the right side was dropping mage seals.

On a side note... the enhances Divine Veil on whm hat increases the AoE distance.

Which NMs and what was your party setup?

[Ave69]

sooo i just got 8/8 bale and Sylvan seal: legs, how do i trade them in, the Moogle is telling me that it is some other dude...

Nevermind asnwered my own Q. finished +1 drk/rng legs HUZZAH!

[Maxwell]

Each NM seems to have a set number of seals it can drop. The Colibri dropped Brd > Sch > Thf > Mnk consistantly. Bat NM dropped Pld + ??? (don't remember).

We farmed colibri for about 3 hours for KIs then spent our remaining time spamming the colibri NM to finish people on their sets, and pulling every NM that popped over to kill the in the mean time. About 30-35 seals in 2 hours time, so not too bad, and nice pair of Tantra Hose +1 .

But ya, NMs seem to have about 4-5 seals they can drop each, maybe less variety for some, and we've seen up to 4 in the pool.

[Malacite]

I needed 8 for whm piece, and got them off of NM's in Attohwa. Killed prolly 6-7 random nms, some pop some that were just up with a small group of 4-5 people.

The drops were pretty random, but it seams as if the west side nm's were dropping meele seals, and the right side was dropping mage seals.

On a side note... the enhances Divine Veil on whm hat increases the AoE distance.

I knew it. I had some morons earlier today trying to argue with me that it did the same thing as Yagrush because it says the same thing. To which I responded SE isn't stupid enough to let such an easily obtainable item outstrip a fucking Mythic Weapon. I mean shit, use your brain.

That's actually pretty cool news though, especially for Yagrush owners. Particularly when your PT is spread out for w/e reason (conal AoE and what have you)



I wish I'd been EXPing in the new zones today though. Had a really great frogs party in LTP, with over 8 hours on the damn clock when I finished. Never have I been more upset over the 2 hour storage limit probably could have gotten all my +1's and even +2's. Do we know what drops those yet btw?

[Elle]

If this has been posted already, sorry, I have been reading the thread, but I didn't see this exact info.

Orobon NM in Abyssea - Miseaureax drops:
SAM/BLU/WHM/DRK legs. i've killed it with a few people about 20+ times now, and those are the only AF+3 drops i've seen from it. Just FYI for updating the OP.

[Eleven19]

If this has been posted already, sorry, I have been reading the thread, but I didn't see this exact info.

Orobon NM in Abyssea - Miseaureax drops:
SAM/BLU/WHM/DRK legs. i've killed it with a few people about 20+ times now, and those are the only AF+3 drops i've seen from it. Just FYI for updating the OP.

Easy ish fight? Looking for lowman stuff to do tbh, I don't roll with a big shell anymore. Anywhere from 4-8 people would be awesome.