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  1. #81
    But I don't want my title changed
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    Quote Originally Posted by grevenilvec75 View Post
    In case anyone was wondering, what I mean is abyssea sucks for healer jobs.
    This still has absolutely NOTHING to do with what he said.

  2. #82
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    Haven't done much abyssea; why is it terrible for healer (my WHM anyway) jobs?

  3. #83
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    It´s boring and you aren´t really needed on the normal Expgrind enemies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grevenilvec75 View Post
    In case anyone was wondering, what I mean is abyssea sucks for healer jobs.
    To whom? I find dancer to be extremely entertaining.

  5. #85
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    I still don't get it.

    To people honestly think abyssea is all about exp parties?

    If so, you really wasted $9.99.

  6. #86
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    There's stuff to do in Abyssea sure, but most people, myself included, really only go there to cap jobs/cap skills/merit. Wouldn't be the first time I wasted $10 on an expansion, since two outta the three mini addons, the gear I got as a reward only gets used for fastcast on utsusemi: ichi and the third piece is just a movement speed for my whm. This for me was a good investment so I wouldn't technically label is as wasting money, just not using the service to it's max potential.

  7. #87
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    If anyone would seriously suggest leveling Black Mage outside Abyssea they should probably check for a gas leak. But yeah, there's plenty there to do besides EXP grind.

  8. #88
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    What I really mean is, exp/merits can be obtained elsewhere. Abyssea gear can only be found in abyssea.

    For someone who always keeps my jobs exp capped, it sucks that abyssea parties are the only real way to merit now, the time it takes to buildup exp and such really blows. Abyssea exp isn't too great if all you can get is 109999 exp tops~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snick View Post
    What I really mean is, exp/merits can be obtained elsewhere. Abyssea gear can only be found in abyssea.
    About 80% of the Visions gear is obsolete/a waste of time =/

  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snick View Post
    For someone who always keeps my jobs exp capped, it sucks that abyssea parties are the only real way to merit now, the time it takes to buildup exp and such really blows.
    Bastion seems to be in response to this. Surprisingly large chunks of exp (and cruor and Resistance Credits) in a very short amount of time.

    Testimonials here:
    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/984...gning-the-void

  11. #91
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    took a 2 month break from ff11 and have about 50 stones. I would only log in to do trials for magian h2h an hour a day. Now I can enjoy abyssea everyday whenever I want with no restrictions, expect for the 1 hour wait inbetween maws

  12. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zag View Post
    took a 2 month break from ff11 and have about 50 stones. I would only log in to do trials for magian h2h an hour a day. Now I can enjoy abyssea everyday whenever I want with no restrictions, expect for the 1 hour wait inbetween maws
    no wait if you leave before your visitant status is up, and you actually got visitant in the first place.

  13. #93
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    Footwork MNK seems now borked a bit. You seem to get a Martial Arts Trait at 82 that also will affect Footwork. Now you would need to fulltime like 20 Store TP to still get the same hit build than at 80 cap.

    So now you need real top of the line gear to reach that or /Sam

  14. #94
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    Martial Arts has always affected Footwork.

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    I don't see him suggesting otherwise. An additional trait will reduce Footwork x-hit, making Footwork as a whole significantly less desirable.

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    Haven't noticed any difference in TP per hit or on WS from 81-85 on mnk or # of hits to 100 TP. If there is a martial arts trait, it's only affecting footwork atm.

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    Not quite sure if this is a localized event or something, but uh... someone should probably do some testing with Auspice.

  18. #98
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    Whm friend says he was using it and a chackram and had 100% acc.

  19. #99
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    Haven't noticed any difference in TP per hit or on WS from 81-85 on mnk or # of hits to 100 TP.

    I did neither... because Mandis were smacking me around left and right. Full timing 10Stp:

    Pre update 80: Tornado + 5hits = 100 TP

    Now 85: Tornado + 5hits = 93 TP



    I definetly do not like that.

  20. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooney View Post
    Haven't noticed any difference in TP per hit or on WS from 81-85 on mnk or # of hits to 100 TP. If there is a martial arts trait, it's only affecting footwork atm.
    To clarify: without footwork

    Normal H2H attacks are the same as before the update.

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