[Carbuncle] WildWackyActionBike Endgame Shell

[Colenzo]

Yeah you said the same thing when I kicked you too, dont worry sweetheart, go check in with Gokku, I'm sure he would love your bard. BUAHAHAHAHAH!!!

[Shini]

And how many times have I told you we need a minibar and sofa up here? It would be perfect for this.

I told you to do it then... D: Get the minibar already!


>.> Ansem, from what I've learned, you're a whiny tool, so best shut your mouth.

[Cleverness]

You make absolutely no sense. Only thing I'm gathering is that you harbor some sort of resentment towards me for telling you guys to follow us around during abyssea instead of going and doing whatever the fuck you want like you always try to do.

Considering you've invited random bads like ansem and bring 18 people to farm Kukulkan skin of all things, I wouldn't want to follow you around during event time either. inb4 you say it's for the win when it's labeled as skin farming. Your linkshell name is appropriate.

[Colenzo]

Look, I didn't know Ansem was bad. What? Where was it labeled skin farming? We were going for the clear, people still needed it http://derp.guildwork.com/dkp/#/raid...a10005e4/loot/ this is what loot we got. We went for clear, got people VV atma and beyond atma and we were done. wtf lol who actively farms skins as a LS. Also, stop shitting up my thread with your off base faggotry. Can a mod please clean up my thread -_- its filled with trash.

[Cleverness]

Offbase? If I actually cared enough could easily pull up conversations you had with people on this very forum who mentioned leaving cause you invited some random scrubs that later left/got booted lol. You seem more concerned with having as many people as possible rather than having a competent core of people. I'm sure all of this will get nuked but hopefully they leave Airenn's post up since the SS are a pretty good indicator of what people are gonna be getting by paying money to server transfer; a LS leader who doesn't want to handle any issues.

[AidenCarby]

You stay classy Carbuncle~

[SaviorSelf]

Sounds like a typical pussy leader.

I don't understand why this should be cleared up. Person posting it wasn't flat out bashing, just pointed out a problem with the shell (i.e. leader is a dumb fuck). Let's other see how a linkshell really runs from the inside instead of just "oh look at them, they get stuff done, I want to join!" when really it's run by a useless leader whose only solution to a problem is to get rid of it. Sounds like Colenzo sure has dealt with all his problems in life.

Save people money so they don't transfer to this shitty linkshell where the 'leader' can't even talk about a 'problem' and acts like a 6 year old. Thanks for the heads up Airenn!

[Kazen]

No this sounds like your typical clique bullshit. While I agree Colenzo should have dealt with it over vent to just get it some sort of closure; from reading the logs and the post here it seems fairly obvious that the correct decision was made.

Only thing I'm gathering is that you harbor some sort of resentment towards me for telling you guys to follow us around during abyssea instead of going and doing whatever the fuck you want like you always try to do

Assuming that this quote is indeed correct I would have done the same exact thing as well, which would be removing all members involved. You joined that LS knowing that they did events at a certain time during the day on each day that they did them. It was the clique-ish group that choose to deviate from the normal scheduled LS plans and do "whatever the fuck they wanted" while the rest of the LS was doing what was actually scheduled. It's irrelevant that you didn't need what the LS was currently doing (in this case clears), sometimes every event wont be centered around you and your group and it's necessary to help everyone else in the LS catch up. Even if you weren't needed for the kill you shouldn't have any sort of entitlement not to help, otherwise the rest of the LS that didnt need the clear would feel the same and the clear would most likely not be done.

In short, I'm not from this server or this LS but their sure is a lot of whiny bitches here.

[The Blackrose]

First: Ansem, you have zero right to talk. For someone who went on and on about "Apathy this" and "Apathy that" like it was a self-masturbation session, you were a fucking garbage player. The entire linkshell was ripping on your retarded ass daily. They still rip on your ass, even after you were kicked. Even people from other servers are coming in here to say how shitty of a player you are. And god help us all if we bring up the time you flipped out on Gokku, saying he was someone on another server (when he's been on Carbuncle longer than server transfers have been open), called him a nigger god knows how many times (in before mod reporting) and even tried playing your BG join date on him. So make like a tree and get the fuck out of here. And go build some Ruby light while you're at it, since you love it so much.

Second: Cole does suck at confrontations. It is something I'll give to his detractors because I saw it during the talks about kicking people. Some of us knew it was going to get ugly fast and Cole just wanted to be done and over with; no ifs, ands or buts. Yes, I was involved in the conversations.

Third: Airenn, I told you flat out why you all got kicked in tells. Virgin, Vivianno and Akumatenshi were collateral damage because Cole figured if you two were gone, those three would follow (I left this detail out on accident). You and Gokku are good players, but your egos were completely out of check. Kazen's quote shows some of that ego coming through.

The both of you had to be the center of attention non-stop. Comms was consistently cluttered because the two of you couldn't take the hint to shut the fuck up. If you didn't get your way, you'd bitch and whine to each other and sometimes have it come over Vent. Or you'd try to skip out, only later to come back and say "You felt bad." Or you'd take off your pearl completely and ask someone in another LS to do something else to your benefit. It's one thing to do something when the LS is not under event time. You've gone out and built up gear for other people, as well as yourselves, on your own time. Yes, it is a great thing. But it was sometimes blatantly obvious that you would have rather been off doing your own thing with your own small group of people during event times. Especially when you let it slip over vent or /linkshell that once event is over with, x mob is dying for y item.

Your own goals and means of getting there started spilling into LS business. You can chalk it up however you want: jealousy, bitchiness, etc. But your actions started deviating from DERP's. If that was the case, why were you still in DERP in the first place?

On the other side of the coin. You told me that DERP is going to slow down now that you're not around. I'll pose my question again: if they kicked you, do they really need you? For what have you done, what would outweigh that enough to get you kicked? Think really hard before you speak, because you're putting that in full display in front of everyone.

Mind you, I've already seen this happen once before. That time, it was a clean break. This was just a mess that was coming a mile away. It's best that you just make the best of the situation now, for what it is.

[Jex]

Ansem has always been a cry baby bitch.... BG or in game, your first mistake was ever talking to the idiot. He sucks at any type of argument and when he can't come up with some flawed retarded logic he resorts to racial slurs that he thinks someone actually gets mad over.

Colenzo seems like a nice guy but from the gear i seen him wear to the post he makes on BG he doesn't strike me as someone who is anything above your average cookie cutter player.

[Gokku]

ok let me clear this all up , for everyone here. the " clique " was a few members with more play time then others who i could count on to play top skill 100% of the time. That being said we never left ls event never delayed never did anything during ls event time to disrupt runs. here is an example of what we would do, the week of hero's release all ls events were canceled so that people could level jobs. Me and a few others who had there mains 90 by the end of the first day instead went and farmed all KI's for all 3 zones then took anyone who wasnt exping BEAT those zones , and refarmed KI's and held on to them so that the following week when it came time for LS to get clears we had all pops ready and finished clearing wins for everyone in ls. This is why we were booted , for farming things on our own off linkshell time then taking what we farmed and using it to help the LS , the Rani kill we got from my "cliuqe" farming the KI's as the info was posted on bg. so no it wasnt some group doing shit during ls time or anything of the sort it was people being jack ass's about not getting shit as fast since they only did ls events.

All in all this is what i know , instead of talking to us they banned us from vent with 0 warning , then broke everyones pearl. People claimed i was a dick and wouldnt take people to things , ill agree to that if i couldn't trust a whm not to afk in the middle of a run i wouldn't take them. i dont play ffxi to babysit people i play to get shit done. when ever someone in ls did have a pop set for something they needed i told them to get me time in a zone and i would kill it all day for them. i just refused to help people who weren't going to help themselves.


just read tbr's post , few things i found odd were :
1. i was told me talking to airenn in a septrate channel on vent so that it didnt invole ls members was a problem so thats an oxymoron if your saying i spent to much time talking about it in channel.
2. when did i ever take my pearl off or skip an event , if i didnt feel well id say so in ls , the only event i wanted to skip but didnt was the ls "subjob" leveling party as a mandatory event

[Airenn]

weirdly enough GOkku types like a retarded child, but he's very eloquent with his speech on ventrilo. I really don't know how this works out... I'll agree to one thing he said though, definitely: We did a lot of babysitting, and it was annoying, and it probably got on other peoples nerves when I complained about it. My bad.

[Shini]

Not trying to come off as rude or tooting Mudkips horn, but you make it sound like Xarc/DL are hard to do:

http://www.flipside-ls.com/Terria/ff...6_22.04.04.png

http://www.flipside-ls.com/Terria/ff...6_22.05.26.png




And for good measure:

http://www.flipside-ls.com/Terria/ff...6_21.31.53.png


Seriously, if you can accomplish more without them, then do that. Don't act as if they "needed" you. If they did, they wouldn't have kicked you. Go do your own shit, at your own time, for your own friends. Simply said.

[The Blackrose]

1. i was told me talking to airenn in a septrate channel on vent so that it didnt invole ls members was a problem so thats an oxymoron if your saying i spent to much time talking about it in channel.

I was not talking you and Airenn being in separate channels. I was talking about when you were in the channel with everyone else. There were times where bits and pieces of what you were doing or planning made it over vent. People knew well enough. There's no oxymoron.

Unless you're talking about your inability to take the hint to shut up, in which that was a general case. Because goddamn is it hard to try to coordinate something when you can't get a word in.

2. when did i ever take my pearl off or skip an event , if i didnt feel well id say so in ls , the only event i wanted to skip but didnt was the ls "subjob" leveling party as a mandatory event

I didn't say it was you specifically.

[Brown Belt]

* off topic what setup did you do that with we have so many in zone cuz i insisted on it id love to cut the # down though*

If you examine the pictures, it seems fairly clear to me that the setup is:
rdm smn brd war war war drk

[Shini]

If you examine the pictures, it seems fairly clear to me that the setup is:
rdm smn brd war war war drk

Booo, way to give it away D:

[Darkmagi]

ok let me clear this all up , for everyone here. the " clique " was a few members with more play time then others who i could count on to play top skill 100% of the time. That being said we never left ls event never delayed never did anything during ls event time to disrupt runs. here is an example of what we would do, the week of hero's release all ls events were canceled so that people could level jobs. Me and a few others who had there mains 90 by the end of the first day instead went and farmed all KI's for all 3 zones then took anyone who wasnt exping BEAT those zones , and refarmed KI's and held on to them so that the following week when it came time for LS to get clears we had all pops ready and finished clearing wins for everyone in ls. This is why we were booted , for farming things on our own off linkshell time then taking what we farmed and using it to help the LS , the Rani kill we got from my "cliuqe" farming the KI's as the info was posted on bg. so no it wasnt some group doing shit during ls time or anything of the sort it was people being jack ass's about not getting shit as fast since they only did ls events.

All in all this is what i know , instead of talking to us they banned us from vent with 0 warning , then broke everyones pearl. People claimed i was a dick and wouldnt take people to things , ill agree to that if i couldn't trust a whm not to afk in the middle of a run i wouldn't take them. i dont play ffxi to babysit people i play to get shit done. when ever someone in ls did have a pop set for something they needed i told them to get me time in a zone and i would kill it all day for them. i just refused to help people who weren't going to help themselves.


just read tbr's post , few things i found odd were :
1. i was told me talking to airenn in a septrate channel on vent so that it didnt invole ls members was a problem so thats an oxymoron if your saying i spent to much time talking about it in channel.
2. when did i ever take my pearl off or skip an event , if i didnt feel well id say so in ls , the only event i wanted to skip but didnt was the ls "subjob" leveling party as a mandatory event

Subjob leveling mandatory event? Amazing.

[Airenn]

I pitched the HUGEST hissy fit over that. I mean like whoa bitchfit. And then I bitched even more cause they wanted to cancel dyna and I said FUCK that we are doing goddamned Dyna Lord. (Not because it was needed but because I was sick of a week of cancelled events over the update.)

[Colenzo]

I pitched the HUGEST hissy fit over that. I mean like whoa bitchfit. And then I bitched even more cause they wanted to cancel dyna and I said FUCK that we are doing goddamned Dyna Lord. (Not because it was needed but because I was sick of a week of cancelled events over the update.)

It was the first week after the update. Yes, I wanted to have the schedule clear for the week since some people actually have lives and are only on during our event times so people needed to get to 90. As for "sub job leveling as an event." I was out there the whole time on my samurai while I had people cycle out on jobs that needed to go from 85-90. This is a fine example of why you all were kicked, all you gave a fuck about was yourselves. Excuse me for wanting to give people a chance to be better and have properly leveled subjobs. Some people don't have the luxury of having a little club of no-lifes that sit around all day and jerk eachother off and let eachother leech exp parties. Some people NEED friends to help them leech jobs up. I was just providing that service to the linkshell. Sorry for your inconvenience(that you skipped out on entirely until the very end.)

[Salmijr]

Real shells have people dualbox a war, smn and rdm mule to fell cleave with, and have 15 people leech. Just saying, if youre gonna make it mandatory, be smart about it. Heck, cap amber and farm your KIs at the same time.

brb, getting popcorn.