Abyssea Discussion II: Finally, a reason to be Windurstian..

[Kilik]

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Did you actually touch Iktomi? If you tagged it then had an outside party/alliance kill it without it completely deaggro'ing, then it still counted as you having first claim. Only your alliance would get the abyssite. I had a solo RDM claim Iktomi then pass it off to my party without losing hate. He ended up getting abyssite. Though I guess my example is a bad one since the people in my group already had the abyssite so I can't 100% say we wouldn't have gotten it.

I have a theory for abyssites from mobs. Because it seems to be based on who tags it first, it seems the abyssite will drop to that one person and then "spread" to their alliance. Same would apply for Atmas. In the NM Weakness thread, I had a post talking about a Bukhis fight where I triggered Red !! with Jinpu, but died at the end of the fight. The LS members that didn't have Atma did not get it for that fight even though we only triggered Red !! once. This would follow the "spreading". Since I was dead and I couldn't receive it, the source for the rest of the alliance to get it was cut off.

For abyssites, you could test this by having someone pop or pull an abyssite dropping mob while in an ally, then drop and join an outside ally. See which group gets the key item.

For atma, have person that triggers Red !! go to an outside alliance when the mob dies. I could see this being useful for LS's that have 18 ppl fighting, but people have mules they want to get atmas on. If it works, you could just have whoever triggers the Red go to the mule ally to get them the Atma.

Edit: Would also be useful for selling Atmas. Make an outside group of people who are there to buy and have the person that triggers join that group at the end of the fight.

Weird to quote myself, but its relevant to this post. I tested to see who gets Atma if the person that triggers Red !! leaves the ally fighting and joins a new one. The original ally gets atma. Haven't tested to confirm that the person that triggers needs to be alive or if that one time was just a fluke

[Khiinroye]

Atma is like abyssites and key items for the next pop; it's linked to whoever popped or pulled the mob, not the person who triggers the !!.

[Aemora]

I know this question belongs to the other Abyssea thread, but what are the benefits you get from the Perspicacity (EXP) abyssite? Could ya solo Chasmic Hornet on Rdm/Nin or any other job <.<a Is it worth getting!?

Kinda new to Rdm, but all ma gearz are le pimp.

[cdgreg]

Wiki discussion seems to contradict itself on Iktomi. Previous accounts say you can kite him around the open area near spawn, others say you can't gain distance on him at all anymore and he may have been updated. Anyone solo/duo'd recently?

[Kegsay]

what are the benefits you get from the Perspicacity (EXP) abyssite? Could ya solo Chasmic Hornet on Rdm/Nin or any other job <.<a Is it worth getting!?

EXP gained at increased rate, does not increase max cap (600, 660, whatever). It simply makes you cap faster. Soloable on most magey jobs, but it needs to be pinned since it moves rather quick good chap. If you're an Abyssea EXP whore, it could be worthwhile.

Wiki discussion seems to contradict itself on Iktomi. Previous accounts say you can kite him around the open area near spawn, others say you can't gain distance on him at all anymore and he may have been updated. Anyone solo/duo'd recently?

Unlikely that it's been changed; if you're a good kiter (which knowing you greg you are) you won't have a problem. Maybe get Ambtion atma if you're really concerned.

[Aurara]

Wiki discussion seems to contradict itself on Iktomi. Previous accounts say you can kite him around the open area near spawn, others say you can't gain distance on him at all anymore and he may have been updated. Anyone solo/duo'd recently?

He doesnt run fast at all, duo'd him today np

[cdgreg]

Awesome, thanks guys.

[cdgreg]

EXP gained at increased rate, does not increase max cap (600, 660, whatever). It simply makes you cap faster. Soloable on most magey jobs, but it needs to be pinned since it moves rather quick good chap. If you're an Abyssea EXP whore, it could be worthwhile.

If hornet dies via terminal sting (or whatever it's called) can you still be granted abyssite?

[Zarion]

I searched but couldn't find this so I'm not sure if it has been posted yet. Just finished 10/10 atma in Abyssea - Konschtat and got 12k cruor.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...nk21x/atma.png

Need to complete 6 more quests and get the abyssite from Pavan/Limules and I will have all 3 objectives complete for the zone.

Edit: LS mate is 3 chestnuts away from being 3/3 on objectives in la theine.

[Kirschy]

Very interested if there's a reward for full completion of a zone~

[Thorny]

Wonder if they're going to add master abyssites or something, bit ridiculous having 40 key items..

37/40 atm with all quests completed, maybe I should finish those up. The idea of getting all atma makes me die a little inside though :S

[Zarion]

Turns out you just get the cruor rewards for each completed objective for a single zone. =\

[Kirschy]

Turns out you just get the cruor rewards for each completed objective for a single zone. =\

Crappy, but at least I don't have to waste my time getting useless Atma

[Xerlic]

I've seen this mentioned in several threads, but just to clarify, you cannot proc !! when a mob is charging/using a WS?

[Byrthnoth]

I've seen this mentioned in several threads, but just to clarify, you cannot proc !! when a mob is charging/using a WS?

True, or if it is casting.

[Xerlic]

True, or if it is casting.

Wow, that sucks for spammy mobs like Carabosse. That would explain why we didn't get a !!. Thanks.

[Byrthnoth]

Wow, that sucks for spammy mobs like Carabosse. That would explain why we didn't get a !!. Thanks.

Has also been hypothesized that Iron Giant "swings" animations count as abilities. Kind of a pain!

[Aemora]

Again with more retard questions...

So I got a T3 VNM pop for Konschtat. I'm sitting at 0/41 for turning another T1 into a T2. Is there some kind of unfounded fucked up thing that makes your only have one VNM Abyssite or some shit (I never did any of the original VNM system, so idk) or am I just really fkn unlucky, cuz shit sux.

[Byrthnoth]

Again with more retard questions...

So I got a T3 VNM pop for Konschtat. I'm sitting at 0/41 for turning another T1 into a T2. Is there some kind of unfounded fucked up thing that makes your only have one VNM Abyssite or some shit (I never did any of the original VNM system, so idk) or am I just really fkn unlucky, cuz shit sux.

I currently have 7 Tier 3 abyssites. You're just getting unlucky. I got over 20k xp converting my first T1 to T2.

[Spira]

updated all my abyssea charts with slight changes (standardizing the style format is a bitch)

added tier structure for vunk and attohwa... and atma/abyssite stuffs

all drop pools now appear to be complete, all atma and abyssite accounted for...

all my maps are effectively complete, save for Iratham.. so I doubt I'll be updating any of them soon unless to revise errors..

enjoy~ i'll be off playing FFXIV