FFXIV Random Speculation/Question Thread IX: "Boss, I'm going on vacation, starting on the 22nd."

**Sephiroth** · 2010-09-18 23:56

Originally Posted by Loaar

Bear in mind that when you view your retainer list one of the things in thier profile is "Retainer level 1".

That implies that we will be able to level them up somehow, possibly for more storage space/bazaar space/functionality?

That's an interesting possibility. Maybe they'll do what they did in XI where you could level up an NPC.

**Vilmos** · 2010-09-18 23:57

Originally Posted by Loaar

Bear in mind that when you view your retainer list one of the things in thier profile is "Retainer level 1".

That implies that we will be able to level them up somehow, possibly for more storage space/bazaar space/functionality?

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who saw and thought this.

**TacoTaru** · 2010-09-18 23:58

Is there a general consensus on how to dump your physical level stats at this point? My guess would be:

MRD, PUG, LNC, ARC: STR/DEX evenly, VIT if you need an HP boost
GLA: VIT/DEX mostly even and STR with left over stats
THM, CON: INT/PIE/MND evenly
Gathering/Crafting PIE maybe?

I mostly just dumped my stats evenly across STR/DEX/VIT but I didn't know if anyone had experiment yet to see how to optimize your stats more efficiently. I saw the VIT test but nothing else repeated for STR or DEX yet.

**BlackheartX** · 2010-09-18 23:58

Honestly if they just got rid of them gave me the inventory space and added an ah there would be no complaints from me honestly. If you can level retainers that would be better but to beat a dead horse the whole system is meh.

**avelle** · 2010-09-19 00:01

What time does beta end tomorrow(err today I guess)? I can't find an official time other than Sept 19th and I can't get to the beta forums because the SE management login thingy is fucked up for me atm.

**Eragon** · 2010-09-19 00:09

I really hope they scrap the point allotment idea -_- Its very discouraging for someone who wants to go from playing a melee and getting bored and playing a mage. This re-assignment/time limit crap is stupid.

**miokomioko** · 2010-09-19 00:11

Originally Posted by TacoTaru

Gathering/Crafting PIE maybe?

Miner: VIT/MND
Botanist: STR/INT
Fisher: DEX/PIE

Alchemst: INT
Armorer: VIT
Blacksmith: STR
Carpenter: ???
Culinarian: PIE (har har)
Goldsmith: DEX
Leatherworker: ???
Weaver: MND

I've been looking at the ___ Eluder abilities and there's a few I'm not sure what they suggest about mob families.

Ashkin = Undead (skeleton)
Vilekin = Vermin (chigoe)
Wavekin = Aquans (orobon)
Seedkin = Plantoids (landtrap)
Voidsent = Arcana (bomb)
Forgekin = ??? (Garlean airship) machines/robots?
Scalekin = Lizards (pieste)
Spoken = ??? (some kind of demon thing?) demons?
Beastkin = Beasts (wolf)
Soulkin = ??? (coblyn)
Cloudkin = Birds (bird)

**Sephiroth** · 2010-09-19 00:13

Originally Posted by Eragon

I really hope they scrap the point allotment idea -_- Its very discouraging for someone who wants to go from playing a melee and getting bored and playing a mage. This re-assignment/time limit crap is stupid.

Or they should let you save stat combinations for different classes.

**Gulkeeva** · 2010-09-19 00:26

Soulkin = demons
forgekin = Machines
spoken = humanoid

speaking of CE edition, I'll be reupdating abilities list after all the patching etc around 23-25th.

also a guide/steps on how to do .dat editing (with pic examples) was posted, incase anyone's interested in that (also a .dat mob swapper program)

no gear/voice/spells swapper made atm.

**Elrina** · 2010-09-19 00:28

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Or they should let you save stat combinations for different classes.

Honestly, I would be content if you could do it for different disciplines (although, now that crafting/gathering use them for sure, different crafting classes inside the same discipline could use stats as differently as DoW/DoM do).

I'm hoping that, even if there's a 1/6/12/24 hour cooldown and you can only do it in town, they give us some way of doing a full re-allotment of stats. The small percentage re-allotment in the field is cool, and allows for adjustment and tactics in the field. But since we're going to have to raise multiple classes at once rather than at least having the option of doing one at a time, I really hope we're given some way to at least occasionally do a full stat changeover for changing from DoW to DoM or a crafting/gathering that uses completely different stats.

**BlackheartX** · 2010-09-19 00:34

Originally Posted by Gulkeeva

Soulkin = demons
forgekin = Machines
spoken = humanoid

speaking of CE edition, I'll be reupdating abilities list after all the patching etc around 23-25th.

also a guide/steps on how to do .dat editing (with pic examples) was posted, incase anyone's interested in that (also a .dat mob swapper program)

no gear/voice/spells swapper made atm.

You sure about this one.

**miokomioko** · 2010-09-19 00:38

I feel like Spoken might be beastmen and wat? Coblyns are demons?

**BlackheartX** · 2010-09-19 00:38

They look like demons.

**miokomioko** · 2010-09-19 00:42

We haven't seen what the Ixal look like, and I feel like that could be a silhouette of them (they are the neo-yagudo bird-men beastmen from around Gridania, I don't think they exist in the game yet).
http://images.static.ffxivarchives.c...38x38_31-5.pngspoken eluder (spoken might imply monster that can speak/posses some intelligence)
http://images.static.ffxivarchives.c...38x38_36-5.pngsoulkin eluder (looks like a coblyn to me, I had immediately assumed animiated objects?)

**Gulkeeva** · 2010-09-19 01:00

yes spoken = intellegence and can speak.. beastmen, "humans" (eorzeaons...?) and other things that can speak is all in that category. (not everythings in 1 catagory, some can have multiple! Don't forget that, like a spoken soulkin (titan)

also, seems the JP community isn't liking the "horsebird"

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/0...ed-horsebirds/

http://imageboard.neko-sentai.com/_i...19dd961835.jpg

ffxiv fanart is pretty much exploding lately, think finding about 3 pics per 3 hours O_o

**Fanfon** · 2010-09-19 01:17

have you guys been allowed to test the garglond goggles yet?

**Sephiroth** · 2010-09-19 01:23

It makes no sense considering the Chinese version will be completely separate to the rest of the world. "Horsebird" is ridiculous, but the rest seems like conspiracy theories.

**miokomioko** · 2010-09-19 01:27

Originally Posted by Fanfon

have you guys been allowed to test the garglond goggles yet?

Nope, no Hermes' Sandals either. Only the XIII and Collector's Edition items.

Wait a minute. Sankaku Complex... I don't buy it.

**Gulkeeva** · 2010-09-19 01:34

Originally Posted by miokomioko

Nope, no Hermes' Sandals either. Only the XIII and Collector's Edition items.

Wait a minute. Sankaku Complex... I don't buy it.

well seeing as theirs fan art of the horsebird... I'm thinking it has some truth to it, also its all over 2chan

**Null** · 2010-09-19 02:23

Should I worry that my preordered CE hasn't even been processed yet? I really don't want them to send it out come the 22nd.

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