FFXIV Random Speculation/Question Thread X: "Social life ends tonight."

[qpoiuwer]

Looking at a few of the recipes for WW and GS, I can clearly see that while some of the lv1-10 items require lv10-20 skill, there are a few items craftable at similar levels of their usage. Just looking at the first few weapons for lv21-30 WW, I see several lv21 rank weapons... the sword, a cane, a bow...

[Elcura]

Are we assuming that no one will ever level a new job that requires low level gear or weapons? I mean, if scaling is prevalent, or you aren't allowed to equip high level gear, using lower level stuff will be much better than high level stuff.

[Priran]

Perhaps I am confused, but you seem to be assuming that everyone that plays this game is going to level up at exactly the same rate across all classes. By the time you're level 25 on blacksmith, nobody else is going to have the need for a level 10 leathercraft tool, so it's a waste to make it at all.

I'm more than willing to try to understand why people are even remotely concerned about this, but I haven't seen an argument posted yet that doesn't make these kinds of assumptions.

Many people will want to level a DoH to lessen the cost of making their own gear. This is MMO standard procedure. However, if the DoH can't make gear for the class you want to play until it significantly outlevels it, you're forced into either a boring grind to level the DoH while you ignore the class you want to play, or into a boring grind for gil to pay retail price on the gear you want.

[Sky Red]

Is it just me or they changed the gamepad option back to what it was in P3? I could set 2 buttons to open macros in OB, but now its switched back to chat log and action menu, rather have it that way too, won't need to use the mouse anymore to scroll through the chat log ;o

[avelle]

One thing I still don't understand with this crafting system is how do miners make their money? Is there some secret to acquiring fire crystals that I'm not aware of? You mine up all this ore and then nobody can do a fucking thing with it. To smelt the ores into nuggets that are useful to blacksmiths and armorsmiths you need fire crystals, not shards. I even heard something about the alchemy recipe to convert shards to crystals no longer worked in open beta? Is that wrong or am I missing something else here?

[avelle]

Is it just me or they changed the gamepad option back to what it was in P3? I could set 2 buttons to open macros in OB, but now its switched back to chat log and action menu, rather have it that way too, won't need to use the mouse anymore to scroll through the chat log ;o

When I went into the ff14 config to enable my 360 controller all of my button mappings were completely gone, similar to how it was for open beta, so I had to remap everything anyways. Or is this not what you're referring to?

[sruon]

After you patch, Open Macro (Alt) and (Ctrl) will be back under Gamepad.

[avelle]

After you patch, Open Macro (Alt) and (Ctrl) will be back under Gamepad.

That probably explains why I didn't see what he's talking about!

[XalienLevi]

The DM hasn't gotten back to me and I just received my text from Gamestop, I think I'll go sleep for 17 hours.

[omegaB]

You're essentially only making actual equipment for your personal use if you level up a series of crafts before you even play a DoW job. Otherwise, you're making equipment and mats simply to sell to other people. A person that wants to craft gear for their DoW job at the same time will be progressing through this game very slowly, and this is the only game I really know of that you have to be far higher level in a craft to make such low level things.

In FFXI, a level 11 tailor could make level 7-10 doublets, masks, gloves, capes, ect. That's a pretty tight spread there. In XIV, you're going to need to be 20+ to make some low level things.

This works well for some people like myself that plan on leveling mage jobs first, because the only thing that comes from leve rewards early on is cloth gear, so by the time I'm high level with a mage, I can pump up my crafts for my eventual DoW jobs, but its still a pretty cumbersome route to take simply to be able to produce items for your own leveling.

actually, your wrong, you van make most gears around the same level or before the level crafting. problem is some have stuff thats hard to get, or high level synth in them. However, some of these are also monster drops, available from npc, and theres always buying from other crafters or teaming up with them.

you can make level 9 lance at level 9 woodworking fairly easily, level 13 knuckles at level 12 blacksmith. leather you can make level 6-8 gear at like level 5, and level 13-20 gear by level 11. the recipes levels on lodestone are reccomended levels for when to try stuff easily, not minimum craft levels unless they changed everything a lot, which i doubt.

[Lucavi]

Here's a question: what's the difference between ore and colored ore? I saw some yellow copper ore - can that ore can be used in leu of traditional copper ore in a recipe?

[Gokulo]

level 13 knuckles at level 12 blacksmith.

You need to get buffalo leather first for that, which is not a low level recipe like that.

[Kaiyoko]

You need to get buffalo leather first for that, which is not a low level recipe like that.

Blacksmiths level leather to 20 1st! Then gogo all out blacksmith!

[Sky Red]

After you patch, Open Macro (Alt) and (Ctrl) will be back under Gamepad.

Oh yah back to what it was now, poof my gamepad for chat log scrolling ;(
All installed and patched for retail though, just need to get my code tomorrow, can't wait ;D

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

level 13 knuckles at level 12 blacksmith..

I had 14 black smith and couldn't make the knuckles. Pretty sure it was because my leather was still 1. Silly thing is you NEED buffalo mats which require you to have lv 15+ leathercraft to make. So 12 blacksmith for rank 13 knuckles? I believe it, but not before you have your leather at rank 15 to make the mats, or at least lv 10 to have the adequate sub to make the knuckles.

[Lucavi]

I'm all fine with needing multiple mats across multiple crafts, but why not balanced the level spread of the mats for the object you're making. Why should buffalo leather be higher than the sweeping majority of items that use it as a synth?

[Biggie]

I even heard something about the alchemy recipe to convert shards to crystals no longer worked in open beta? Is that wrong or am I missing something else here?

It still worked, it was just 2 levels higher in OB

[Aladwar]

Has anyone's Amazon order actually shipped yet?

[mdkuser]

You need to get buffalo leather first for that, which is not a low level recipe like that.

This example isn't good. Buffalo leather is sold by NPC, easy to get and cheap ( 4k ). Buffalo leather strap do however have a level 20 synth recommandation, but I was able to make them at level 13 after several attempts (5 breaks one success, one success= 12 straps= 12 knuckles). so yeah, it is very possible to make lv 13 knuckles with profit at lv 12 smither and tanner, although recommanded level is more like 20 if you don't want breaks.

[Kaiyoko]

I'm all fine with needing multiple mats across multiple crafts, but why not balanced the level spread of the mats for the object you're making. Why should buffalo leather be higher than the sweeping majority of items that use it as a synth?

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