Random Complaint Thread. No white knighting allowed.

[The Q]

Another fucking crash at the beginning of a leve. I'm done for the week.

ONLY crashes during leves. God damned bullshit.

Also to reference my earlier post it is the thread the following link is to that really ground my shit to paste. Posts by DoctorMog especially, along with all his dick-riders.

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?foru...8105569&page=1

[Lucavi]

I wish it was only a matter of time before you stopped posting sarcastic, pointless strawman bullshit by pulling one thing I said out of context.

Its not really strawman, but okay. And I wasn't mocking you, for once, just pointing out the truth.

[Celeras]

Found a glitch where if you're killed as a mage with your tranquility/exhaltation on cooldown, it's instantly boosted to (I think) a 20 min cool down(or at least above 10 mins in all situation, possibly doubles the current timer?).

Err, sure you just didnt use it while weakened?

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

yep, positive. I used it, died shortly thereafter, respawned and ran back to where I was. Next time I opened up my hot bar my cooldown was well above 10 mins.

[arlee]

Its bad enough they make these dam pointless winding roads that probably take up a good few minutes leading from one zone to the other that has no scenery change and no mobs but we still don;t have chocobos, those dam winding roads are just pointless retarded time sinks.

I can wait for airships but come on already give us the dam chocobos!

[jPuff]

Also to reference my earlier post it is the thread the following link is to that really ground my shit to paste. Posts by DoctorMog especially, along with all his dick-riders.

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?foru...8105569&page=1

I think people like him are the only reason S-E hasn't declared bankruptcy. I can't wait for SP to be changed again and his shitty haijin grind invalidated.

[Sephiroth]

I am tolerating the grind for now because I desperately want a 45+ class for NMs, but I won't be touching battle after that until SP is fixed.

SE don't even want to think about raising the rank cap until the game is balanced properly for all classes.

Mobs drop too much shit right now too, when I'm NPCing half a dozen stacks of copper, zinc, obsidian and silver every time I grind there's something wrong. Like what's the point of mining?

[The Q]

I think people like him are the only reason S-E hasn't declared bankruptcy. I can't wait for SP to be changed again and his shitty haijin grind invalidated.

I can't wait for it. I can't even look at ZAM now knowing fuck sticks like that rule the show.

He had posted that he has no trouble getting 2-3 levels a day, which he went back and edited out of every one of his posts yesterday. If he's not lying about his numbers then at 26+ this would be 3 hours minimum at his alleged 10k/hr rate. Upwards of 6+ hrs per level in late 30's and beyond. Even at 15k/hr the grind time is ridiculous.

But no, according to him the problem isn't the SP. Nay, it is US! Because grinding the same exact model mob for a day's worth of hours to possibly achieve a new level is totally fun and there's content to make such a ridiculous grind worth it. Fuck people like that. The loud-mouthed super-minority. The fucker has the audacity to say putting in 40 hours of straight grinding is acceptable for (I think) 44-50.

I just looked up the SP/level table while posting this. I just threw up in my mouth. I'm not even going to bother trying at all now until this shit is straightened out. I'd rather play Ragnarok.

[jPuff]

Mobs drop too much shit right now too, when I'm NPCing half a dozen stacks of copper, zinc, obsidian and silver every time I grind there's something wrong. Like what's the point of mining?

Agreed on that point. The market for mid-range ores has been wrecked by DoW grinding (Zinc for example is totally worthless now).

[Aristio]

I just looked up the SP/level table while posting this. I just threw up in my mouth.

QTF:

Either:
1) Give 1000-2000 SP per mob/node.
2) Mimic FFXI in how much you need to level.
3) Scale the amount of SP given based on the mob's level, not level compared to yours. Level 1 mobs give 50, Level 50+ gives 2000.

Example:
FFXIV Rank 29-30=35,000
FFXI Level 29-30=5,700

It's ridiculous that they have fatigue on top of this ridiculous grind. It's fucking ridiculous even more than you have Gathering Fatigue ON TOP of regular Fatigue. They also must have some balls to make my mining materials drop like fucking candy from Coblyns. If you want to make Coblyns drop ore, nothing above copper. Otherwise, GTFO.

By the way, what the fuck is in store for Gathering endgame? You seem to forget we're a fucking -class-. We have the same amount Skill Points needed to get to 50, we have the same grind, but no endgame. I think I remember Crafter's are getting some sort of group craft like ships and cakes, but what about DoL?

[miokomioko]

Fishing competitions? Strip mines?? Clear cutting???

[Aristio]

Fishing competitions? Strip mines?? Clear cutting???

I don't honestly know. Just anything honestly would be fine with me, competitions included. Hell, it could be mixed in with the other disciplines for all I care.

Random Ideas:
-Certain Notorious Monsters that would only pop by being mined/fished/logged.
-Having to work with crafting classes on a leve in order to make X-item.
-Competitions to see who can mine/fish/log the most in X amount of time.
-Having a hard quest that would take you into dangerous areas in order to find some super rare materials for a NPC to make you an awesome Pickaxe/Rod/Hatchet.

Edit: Also, Traingule/Douse/Prospect should last 1 minute.

[miokomioko]

They did mention a while back that they were going to make some leves that required the participation of two or more disciplines. However, I don't see that currently getting past the most basic "DoW/M kill mobs to get drops > DoH craft item out of drops > Use item to pop final target(s)."

[Celeras]

Example:
FFXIV Rank 29-30=35,000
FFXI Level 29-30=5,700

I love when people do this, then forget to mention what each of those numbers actually equates too. 35,000 in XIV is a single loop of leves and maybe a behest, all of which you can do at your leisure/solo if you prefer. Whereas that 5,700 in XI was likely several hours LFG, followed by 1-2 hours in a party hoping it doesn't disband.

This grind is nothing compared to the first few years of XI, and anybody saying different is smoking the nostalgia pipe.

[The Q]

35,000 in XIV is a single loop of leves and maybe a behest, all of which you can do at your leisure/solo if you prefer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

[Sephiroth]

I don't mind coblyns dropping mid or even high level ores. They should just be so rare that if you need these ores you have to mine/buy them. Like make them 1% drop rate or something.

I came up with a nice idea for "end game" DoL the other day. Have special nodes that can only be gathered from with a team effort. Give them good drops and a new mini game where each player hits the same item. Surely SE can come up with something good.

[miokomioko]

Well, I hope I am not going to eventually need to rely on others to do some high-rank fishing when I don't feel like... relying... on others.

[Celeras]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

If you don't get 3-8k SP per leve, you're doing it wrong. And it's pretty much impossible to complete a Behest getting less than 5, usually closer to 10.

[Aristio]

I love when people do this, then forget to mention what each of those numbers actually equates too. 35,000 in XIV is a single loop of leves and maybe a behest, all of which you can do at your leisure/solo if you prefer. Whereas that 5,700 in XI was likely several hours LFG, followed by 1-2 hours in a party hoping it doesn't disband.

This grind is nothing compared to the first few years of XI, and anybody saying different is smoking the nostalgia pipe.

Miner can get about 2000-2500 in a single Leve quest, with Favor on, assuming optimal rank (Which means around 8-12, 18-22, 28-32, ect). Miner and other DoL only have 6 at their recommended rank before we have to dip one tier lower, and that's going to all three cities. Assuming you're tight on anima, which most people are, you'll try to walk. If you start at Gridania, and walk to Humbleearth (Which is around my rank), takes 10 minutes. Half hour of leves later, you'll walk to Ul'dah which will take another half hour. Then you pick up your leves, and walk to Nophica Wells which is 10 minutes. Half hour later, take another half hour to run to Limsa and then to Cedarwood. Do your half hour of leves, and what do you end up with after ~2 hours of leves? A -maximum- of 16,000 skill points, assuming you ignore the pitiful 1k per leves that are 10 ranks below you. And you also have to remember Guardian's Favor recharges very slowly, so I run out of it very fast.

TD:LR. SP system is bullshit.

[Sephiroth]

Well, I hope I am not going to eventually need to rely on others to do some high-rank fishing when I don't feel like... relying... on others.

Solo game will always be there. There isn't much you can do to add solo "end-game" for DoL. Same with crafting.