Random Complaint Thread. No white knighting allowed.

[Cutriss]

Jesus Christ I was wondering how the black knights would spin this patch. SE is addressing issues that everyone had problems with

I thought you didn't have problems with it. Trolling then?

they're doing it in a timely manner

A timely manner would have been IN THE ALPHA OR BETA...

and even providing feedback on future fixes(that whole lack of communication thing u guys bitch about).

Calling what they've done so far "feedback" is like saying that your macaroni art from kindergarten belongs in the Louvre.

For gods sake just cancel the fucking subs already and pick it back up in march or go play cata for a year.

Pfft. I got this thing beat. I never subbed. I haven't even activated my free 30 days yet. I played in beta and I'm waiting for the stupid BS to get fixed before I even consider trying it out. Also I don't play WOW. This isn't a fanboy issue and you should really just chill out and accept that maybe...just maybe...you're in the minority here.

[Gokulo]

I think the only thing that would satisfy u is if Tanaka gave u a blow.

A good bj is always welcome.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

I agree it should have been fixed a while ago, but at least it's fixed now. Like most people said, they didn't have a perfect version they were going to release from OB. If you didn't like OB you were going to get the same thing in retail at the start. Shouldn't expect anything else. Honestly they should have had these fixes done at CE release but well... it's SE. I'll welcome the random patch that will fix a few isses each week AND a note at the end saying "Version update next week, market ward changes". I'm happy they didn't leave me in the dark this time.

[Gokulo]

If you didn't like OB you were going to get the same thing in retail at the start. Shouldn't expect anything else.

Don't want to complain any further since some people are too insecure here, but: I think that's stretching it a big too much. It was rational to think there won't be a miracle patch on start day, but it's also irrational to say that you shouldn't expect the game to change OB > Retail. We did get fixes here and there, but some almost game breaking stuff also made it out alive... but at least they are being fixed now, which is a relief.

[Cutriss]

Better communication would be a roadmap with timeframes on when certain features would be added, and a representative or two that would directly interact with the users. Answer questions and ask us questions in turn, rather than just silent updates that fix one or two things.

Better communication would go a long, long, LONG way in pacifying people. Apologise for the issues. Tell people you're aware of them, and what you're going to do about it. Thank them for sticking it out. Throw them a bone.

Act like you care.

[CasualPlayer]

Better communication would be a roadmap with timeframes on when certain features would be added, and a representative or two that would directly interact with the users. Answer questions and ask us questions in turn, rather than just silent updates that fix one or two things.

Better communication would go a long, long, LONG way in pacifying people. Apologise for the issues. Tell people you're aware of them, and what you're going to do about it. Thank them for sticking it out. Throw them a bone.

Act like you care.

Did u even read the update notes on the lodestone? This is EXACTLY what they're tying to do.

What the hell is the ask the dev section if its not what u described? They even explained the guardian and sign thing (was a big complaint/mystery to a lot of ppl whether this board finds it relevant or not.)

And one of the biggest complaints in OB was the mouse lag. Was that not a fix from OB to retail? Are u guys paying attention at all? I mean Cutriss u said your not even playing the game right now. Do you have any idea what your even complaining about?

How much more of a roadmap/timeframe do u need than "version update next week"? You want your shit to the minute? Second?

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Don't want to complain any further since some people are too insecure here, but: I think that's stretching it a big too much. It was rational to think there won't be a miracle patch on start day, but it's also irrational to say that you shouldn't expect the game to change OB > Retail. We did get fixes here and there, but some almost game breaking stuff also made it out alive... but at least they are being fixed now, which is a relief.

Yea that's what I meant, a miracle patch. Still early, logical speaking I guess fails me. I just didn't expect half the bugs to be fixed on CE release, though I did expect a lot of them to get patched last week.

Biggest things on the list right now;

Market wards
Bugs
Mailbox
Transportation
Player search(LFG/searching for crafter)

With these I can see a functioning game, depending on the market ward fixes.

[Cutriss]

Did u even read the update notes on the lodestone?

I did as a matter of fact.

What the hell is the ask the dev section if its not what u described? They even explained the guardian and sign thing (was a big complaint/mystery to a lot of ppl whether this board finds it relevant or not.)

You are seriously missing the point. This is not two-way communication. These are little more than FAQ items.

And one of the biggest complaints in OB was the mouse lag. Was that not a fix from OB to retail?

I think the general consensus is that it's the *only* fix from OB to retail.

Are u guys paying attention at all? I mean Cutriss u said your not even playing the game right now. Do you have any idea what your even complaining about?

Sure do. I know other people that are playing, and unlike you, I can read. Nice bait for you to pounce on, wasn't it?

How much more of a roadmap/timeframe do u need than "version update next week"? You want your shit to the minute? Second?

Something akin to the roadmap that was done for XI earlier this year would be nice. Also, aside from the previously announced "market wards changes", do you know what's in the version update next week? Aside from marking them as item-specific and the tax changes, do you know how it's going to work? Why not?

I mean, it's all a big ball of mystery right now, and the odds are decent that we are going from one pile of trash to another. They're not talking to us, so how would we ever know?

They treat this shit like every update is Christmas and we should be eager to see what surprises are in store for us. And half the time it's a lump coal, or a bowling ball with Homer Simpson's name on it..

[Gokulo]

And one of the biggest complaints in OB was the mouse lag. Was that not a fix from OB to retail?

Using a ON/OFF switch is so much job yeah.

[person2007]

Meh game still sucks. But at least SE are patching stuff i guess

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Oh wow... they didn't fix SP gain.. just exp distribution. What a waste. Has xp ever been the complaint?

[Saroyan]

Oh wow... they didn't fix SP gain.. just exp distribution. What a waste. Has xp ever been the complaint?

Were you able to test this? or just going off the patch notes? If they didn't fix SP gain then that sucks ass

[Katlan]

they fixed skill gain? Cause thats all i care about

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Going off patch notes. They showed they knew the difference between skill points and experience points between this note and the one explaining a situation where a player would receive 0 skill points after battle.

[Lucavi]

Orly? Haha.

Edit: Bah, test it in game, then talk about that. I'm not gonna slam SE unless they deserve it.

[aru]

They treat this shit like every update is Christmas and we should be eager to see what surprises are in store for us. And half the time it's a lump coal, or a bowling ball with Homer Simpson's name on it..

I fully expect that what is taking the dev team so much time to update this shit is the fact that they are planning out a shitty Halloween event and need to figure out how to code belts that are able to change your character into a funguar/puk/crystalmonsterthing and/or are working on balancing the stats of a rank 1 pumpkin helm.

[CasualPlayer]

I did as a matter of fact.You are seriously missing the point. This is not two-way communication. These are little more than FAQ items.

Something akin to the roadmap that was done for XI earlier this year would be nice. Also, aside from the previously announced "market wards changes", do you know what's in the version update next week? Aside from marking them as item-specific and the tax changes, do you know how it's going to work?

U really think SE should use their developers time TO SIT IN A FORUM AND CONDUCT LIVE CHAT WITH PEOPLE LIKE U ANSWERING QUESTIONS ALL DAY?!

Well shit, no wonder your unhappy with the game.

And that ffxi comparison? Come on use your brain. It's easy to outline the development cycle of a game that's 8 years old. Did u see any outlines with pretty graphics and graphs and timelines during the first several years of ffxis existence? No.

[CasualPlayer]

Using a ON/OFF switch is so much job yeah.

Update is an update. Not arguing about how hard it was for them to do the update.

Besides if somebody didn't .dat mind and find the files already in game, you'd be thinking coding the mouse was a lot more complicated.

[ChairmanMeow]

Does anyone ever have trouble selling items to an NPC? I'm not referring to the excessive, redundant menus, just that sometimes I need to hit "sell" like, 30 times for it to go through.

[Teakwood]

Does anyone ever have trouble selling items to an NPC? I'm not referring to the excessive, redundant menus, just that sometimes I need to hit "sell" like, 30 times for it to go through.

I've had this problem, yes. There's a huge amount of server lag on transaction finalisations, and sometimes this seems to extend to the thing not even going through. I have the same issue with Retainers.