Random Complaint Thread. No white knighting allowed.

[Sephiroth]

There's a serious shortage of wind shards on our server. SE really need to do something before more crafters hit the 20s and 30s or they're going to inflate so much that only the rich crafters can afford them and decent mobs dropping them will be so over camped it will be a pain to get your own.

Water/ice/lightning shards don't seem to be used anywhere near as much as the other three, why couldn't SE balance shit like this?

[Elcura]

lightning shards don't seem to be used anywhere near as much as the other three, why couldn't SE balance shit like this?

Never done LW?

[Dooom]

I burnt through a whole heap of lightning shards on weaving, so did my friends. A shortage of water shards halted my PLing of leathercrafting a few weekends ago.

[Cureslime]

Crafting is a losing proposition all around. Grinding mobs is 10x faster money unless you already have a crafting job well past 30 at this point. It's only useful if you want to repair your own gear.

I've probably sold 5 million in gear while spending 10 million on leveling crafting and making said gear so far. That's not taking into consideration the time involved. If I had spent all my time in the game just grinding mobs (I would probably shoot myself first but whatever) and selling crystals/shards I would have well over 50 million gil on me.

In the late November update I bet they tweak recipes to take fewer shards.

[Sephiroth]

Never done LW?

Thing is, fire, wind and earth are used in large quantities by 3-4 crafts whereas lightning appears to be just LW. GSM is mostly fire and wind but to make anything to sell I burn through a ton of earth making parts with my CRP. The only time I've used lightning is certain alchemy recipes.


Crafting will stay good for a while yet. Few people will have the patience to take crafts into the 40s at any decent pace. End-game gear is going to be expensive.

I'm still hoping shard prices will drop once clusters start being used and farmed. I have like 8 fire clusters, that's like 250 fire crystals. That would last me ages. Breaking them into shards is what will be painful.

[Cureslime]

Most people are going to quit the game long before they reach a level where the crafters can make real money off of them. At the moment only rank 30+ blacksmiths can match the gil output of a farmer and even that won't be the case in a week or so.

Crafting is completely worthless until they make crafted items BoE, up the level cap, and add real craftable end game pieces. People that actually make it up that high without leveling crafting will have infinite millions so nobody will come out ahead.

[Elcura]

Thing is, fire, wind and earth are used in large quantities by 3-4 crafts whereas lightning appears to be just LW. GSM is mostly fire and wind but to make anything to sell I burn through a ton of earth making parts with my CRP. The only time I've used lightning is certain alchemy recipes.

I used 12 earth a synth for weaving, while only using minor amounts of water and wind. Lightning costs are high if you're doing LW, as making sinew cords requires 8+ per synth. Weaver also uses a lot of lightning shards/crystals for breaking down moko grass and cotton bolls. I've gone through hundreds of lightning crystals making cotton yarn. If I were to convert that into shards, I could've easily used thousands.

Water is used a lot when making dyes or dyed products, as well as some GS recipes that you may skill up on (hooks). The only shards that I don't see used a lot are ice, but I know you use ice crystals for dyed buffalo leather.

[arshesney]

Ice are common for Cooking, Alchemy uses a good deal of water shards as well. But wind shards are above everything else, every craft uses them and are involved in making any piece of wearable equipment or weapon. They ugly result is that ice shards are sold for 100g whereas wind shards are 500+g (and foolish people buy those). Need definitely more balance between elements.
Crystals will be somewhat different as people start using rank 30+ gear: I've noticed some repair materials that require multiple crystals in the synth, but at the moment only fire and lighting are in high demand (other crystals are just seen as craftable shards).

[Sephiroth]

In my 20s I use 4 fire and 4 wind to skill up, in my 30s it's going to be 8 of each. My BSM and ARM both use huge amounts of fire too. Earth is very common in WEA, CRP and probably others. Water could well be involved in a lot of synths, but not many people level cooking right now so demand is still low. I always see lightning cheaper than fire, wind and earth and the supply of them is less to begin with so the demand can't be as high.

[Elcura]

The prices weren't that ridiculous last week, but it seems every week costs will go up. Lightning being the highest I've seen going for 5-10k EACH. Fuck that. For the most part I just make free gear for people if they give me lightning crystals, that how I've done so far

[Meresgi]

Most people are going to quit the game long before they reach a level where the crafters can make real money off of them. At the moment only rank 30+ blacksmiths can match the gil output of a farmer and even that won't be the case in a week or so.

Crafting is completely worthless until they make crafted items BoE, up the level cap, and add real craftable end game pieces. People that actually make it up that high without leveling crafting will have infinite millions so nobody will come out ahead.

I must be doing something wrong/right because i'm making a lot of money crafting but not as much farming. Granted i'm only selling fire shards because I don't use those at all, but are peoples servers really in that bad of shape for shards? Mine seems fine right now and each shard is about 100-150 each which isn't too bad. I'm only rank 20 in CRP/LW so just making money from making pine crooks and dodoskin harnesses at 70k and 15k each respectively.

[Sephiroth]

Water/ice go for 100 on my server with lightning around 150. Fire and Earth 200 with wind 250 minimum. If you're lucky you'll pick up earth and fire for 150 and ice as low as 50. Seeking shards in bazaar can save you a little gil but everyone is doing this now. I'm glad I stocked up on fire and wind crystals before the 9999 patch.

[CasualPlayer]

I must be doing something wrong/right because i'm making a lot of money crafting but not as much farming. Granted i'm only selling fire shards because I don't use those at all, but are peoples servers really in that bad of shape for shards? Mine seems fine right now and each shard is about 100-150 each which isn't too bad. I'm only rank 20 in CRP/LW so just making money from making pine crooks and dodoskin harnesses at 70k and 15k each respectively.

I don't even find earth shards anymore on retainers, and the wind shards I see are 400 or more each.

Edit: I actually do find cheap earth shards now and again (and I do grab them when I see them) but at 28 ARM u need such ridiculous quantities of them it doesn't really help. I've had to go farm my own shards lately.

[BerenTebogo]

ARM earth shard and fire crystal requirement in the mid to high 20's is just fucking ridiculous. I have enough nuggets to do nugget -> ingot -> chain -> chain parts -> gear and take myself from 25 to probably 28 on nothing but what I started from with nuggets, but it will take easily over 4,000 shards and ~200 crystals.

[bruiser]

Wind / Earth shards are up to 400-500 on my server, and lightning crystals are starting to skyrocket as well. I've seen people shouting to buy lightning crystals for 7k.

yesterday I shouted to trade my wind shards for someone else's fire crystals, and i was able to get them at an exchange rate of 1 fire crystal = 6 wind shards.

[miokomioko]

They first did it to main storyline NPCs, then they did it to Repair NPCs... why not just prioritize the loading of all NPCs over PCs? If you're having trouble seeing your friend in a crowd of 5000 people, then move. NPCs don't have that privilege and I'm constantly having to run a mile past and back to get the NPC for my local leve to load.

[bruiser]

They first did it to main storyline NPCs, then they did it to Repair NPCs... why not just prioritize the loading of all NPCs over PCs? If you're having trouble seeing your friend in a crowd of 5000 people, then move. NPCs don't have that privilege and I'm constantly having to run a mile past and back to get the NPC for my local leve to load.

Or they could, you know, make their server not be terrible so that it could draw all the NPCs at the same time. There's no excuse for not being able to draw a couple hundred people on the screen with little to no lag involved on a top-end computer. The bottleneck seems to be their server, not my network or my graphics card.

[Cureslime]

Or they could, you know, make their server not be terrible so that it could draw all the NPCs at the same time. There's no excuse for not being able to draw a couple hundred people on the screen with little to no lag involved on a top-end computer. The bottleneck seems to be their server, not my network or my graphics card.

Unoptimized engine + already high system requirements due to said engine + shitty servers = death if it tried to force load everyone. I really wish all NPCs would load before PCs. I don't like having to wait 5 minutes for Roarich to load in Ul'dah.

I can't keep up with demand selling earth shards for 400g and wind shards for 460g. I have 600 earth and 400 wind crystals banked for splitting but there's only so much repetition I can stand in a day. The first step S-E needs to take is to make finished items BoE. There's a lot more tweaking with the system that needs to be done after that to get crafting to a worthwhile state.

[Ezekial]

SO I just did Fade to White mission and apparently you do not have confirmation for selecting YES on a Companion NPC, SO FUCK YOU SE, I now have an ugly ass Galka due to the menu fucking up like it always does.

I hate this game, why am I even playing it...

[ArchDizzle]

I am making a 200-300k a day spending minimal time solo grinding and selling shards/crystals/mats, and not at 400 plus prices fuck that's absurd. Shards 200wind the rest are 100 and all crystals are 1k except wind which is 1.5k and they stay in my bazaar for about 10sec. I usually sit with a few hundred k on me and all the gear I need to 30-35 for 4 different jobs, I am running out of shit to spend it on so will probably have millions on hand by the time I need to buy something again, making money in this game is easy mode.